On the other hand, it is Peyton $#@!ing Manning...
On the other hand, it is Peyton $#@!ing Manning...
Peyton $#@!ing Manning, man that does sound good. I know one thing, if this does happen, many of my co-workers' heads would explode. We have lots of folks originally from Indiana, most are Colts/Peyton fans. I like ragging them when the Texans and Colts play.
Matt Schaub is not healthy.
He has a serious lis franc injury that required surgery. That same injury has ended the careers of other NFL players. The best case scenario, that Schaub would be 100% recovered by opening day 2012, is extremely unlikely. And there is no assurance whatsoever that Schaub will ever be back to his old self.
So there is considerable risk by "staying the course."
Also, it might make sense to stay with Schaub given economic realities. However, the arguments you made are retarded:
1. We shouldn't go after Peyton because Schaub "knows the system" and has a great "rapport with the guys." I could learn the system and have rapport with the guys, it doesn't mean I should be playing quarterback.
2. Manning doesn't know the system or is not athletic enough. RETARDED. Manning is the smartest QB I have ever seen and there is no one on earth who would choose a 100% Schaub over a 100% Manning simply because Schaub knew the offense already.
Last edited by STFU Donny; 02-29-2012 at 11:30 AM.
saying lisfranc injuries have ended careers so schaub's is in jeopardy is like saying people's careers have ended because of knee injuries, so anyone with a knee injury's career is at risk. there are differing levels of bone displacement, from what i hear, and schaub's was not as bad as some of the others.
all that said, it would obviously have to be something peyton wanted, because he'll get more attractive offers from other teams. if we cut schaub and don't go after mario, we could conceivably pull it off.
If it would take us cutting Schaub(who's yet to be declared 100% healthy either) and letting Mario W walk in order to have Peyton $#@!ing Manning(we'd have to have some suriety that he's 100% or looking to be) as our opening day starter, you do that in a heart beat. Explain to me how that makes us worse that we were at the end of the season last year?
The team was a muffed punt and some $#@!ty playcalling & Qb play in 4th qtr away from the AFC Championship game without the 2 players mentioned above.
And please don't use the excuse that Schaub has a rapport with our guys, feel for our system and is more mobile as a reason not to sign Manning. Our system by all accounts is pretty qb friendly. Doesnt require the Qb to take many hits since most of the passing plays are boots or off of playaction. Not to mention our patented running play is the same one the colts utilitze in their offense (the stretch play off tackle) which is pretty much the extent of mobility a qb in our system would need. And it's Peyton Manning...he'd be teaching our offense to us by mid-season.
If we can hit on a #2 receiver and give our D a full offseason to learn and improve, I'd love to see where this team can go this season. Don't get me wrong, I love Schaub and would like to see him if fully healthy back as our starter next season, but let's not act as if we all havent had some questions about him as well. Remember the end of the Oakland game?
F' it man I like 'rangs' and would love to see Manning, with our talent, make a run at it and help bring us our first one!
BTW as much as I want Peyton I don't think the Texans will actually do it. Too many people in the organization have the same philosophy as Atticus.
daddy likey.Kendall Wright - WR - Player
One league source assures ESPN Florida's Charlie Bernstein that his team is "not concerned at all" about Baylor WR Kendall Wright's disappointing 4.61 forty time.
"Kendall Wright plays much faster than he was clocked," the source added. We suspect it's a sentiment shared by many teams, as Wright's slow time was due primarily to hand movement before he got cleanly out of his stance. On film, Wright played faster than Notre Dame's Michael Floyd (4.42) and Georgia Tech's Stephen Hill (4.36). Wright could fall right in the Texans' lap at No. 26 overall thanks to the "poor" Combine performance.
Hell $#@!ing yes...take Wright, cut JJ and Walter and use that money to sign Reggie Wayne and the WR position has vastly improved...
Grantland's piece on Mario:
Too many tables to embed.
To be quite honest, Mario Williams shouldn't be a free agent. The Houston Texans failing to negotiate a contract extension with Williams before his deal expired will go down as one of the great mistakes in league history, like the Eagles failing to lock up Reggie White, or the Falcons letting Deion Sanders go. Their inability to lock up Williams with the franchise tag is going to be a franchise-defining moment for two teams: the Texans and whatever team is lucky enough to add the most valuable defender in the history of free agency to their roster.
The point I was trying to make is that Schaub's health is a big question mark just like Manning's. Yes you would take 100% Schaub over gimpy creaky Manning, but we don't know if that's what we would get (in either case).
Disclaimer: This article is part of my series on free agency from the perspective of the agent, where I prepare Scott Boras-esque "books" that detail where each player stands in the marketplace and why he deserves as much of your team's money as possible. Normally, my goal is to use statistics and historical context to present the most accurate depiction of football that I can, but in this series, all I want to do is convince you to spend money on the player in question.
the next several weeks will be interesting. brees will get resigned. someone will trade up for rg3. the colts will draft luck. someone is going to draft tannehill crazy early. someone will snag matt flynn and hope for the best. then when the smoke clears, the manning bidding will begin. if he looks around and the options aren't to his liking, i could see houston as a darkhorse situation. i just don't see it happening with what i've heard and read thus far.
manning wants to play for a super bowl contender plain and simple
the texans will be a super bowl contender in 2012
that doesn't really narrow anything down. lots of teams become superbowl contenders with peyton manning healthy at qb.
Only sign Mario if he is reasonable salary wise or if you can sign and trade him for a higher draft pick...
Sign the OLine guys, Driesen and Foster...
Draft the best receiver available (Kendall Wright? Oh God Please!)
Draft/Sign the best corner you can afford.
I'm just not sure that's the best mindset when Peyton $#@!ing Manning may be available.
I think they draft the best available, I'd hate to see them reach on a wr. Drafting for need is a recipe bad news jeans.
pittsburgh tendered mike wallace. id love to give up our first round pick for a wr of his caliber
Kubiak named AFC coach of the Year
KANSAS CITY – Houston Texans head coach Gary Kubiak has been named the 2011 AFC Coach of the Year in the upcoming NFL 101 Awards, which is the nation’s premier awards event dedicated exclusively to professional football. The voting was tabulated at the end of the regular season and is made up of 101 national sportswriters and broadcasters that cover the league all year-round. San Francisco’s Jim Harbaugh was named NFC Coach of the Year. In his sixth season in Houston, Kubiak led the Texans to a 10-6 mark and the franchises first ever playoff appearance and victory. The win total is also the highest in team history. According to the Kansas City Chiefs official website, the 2011 season award winners will be presented at the 42nd Annual NFL 101 Awards gala in Kansas City on Saturday. The awards were started in 1969 and has evolved into what many sports insiders consider the finest awards event of its kind.
Other award winners include:
Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay - NFC Offensive Player of the Year
Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots – AFC Offensive Player of the Year
Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings – NFC Defensive Player of the Year
Terrell Suggs, LB, Baltimore Ravens – AFC Defensive Player of the Year
Last edited by Mikeinthebox; 03-01-2012 at 08:34 PM.
How much of a 'sure thing' is Williams? I know he had a great year last year, but it's going to cost a lot to get him... and aren't we relatively sure that we can get Wright or Floyd at 26, and aren't we relatively sure that they will be good receivers? Seems like the risk/reward is lower for the late-1st round pick than a pricey FA.
I'm surprised to see how many of yall want to take Wright though. Great player, but he'll be shorter than most NFL CBs and he can't block, which makes him way too much of a question mark when compared to the other WRs in a very top-heavy WR class. Wright would do well in the slot for us because of his style of play and how we use the slot WR so effectively, but when compared to what Sanu, Hill or Randle can bring to the team, that's a no-brainer for me. And we get such good money value from the slot, I don't see us paying him to do the job that any fill-in can do, assuming we have big guys to draw coverage on the outside which those other guys give us.
Last edited by Mikeinthebox; 03-02-2012 at 11:32 AM.
I agree do all that then sign Wallace
I also agree about Wallace. When they addressed team need in the draft with the corners, they drafted Kareem Jackson and it backfired. When they addressed it in free agency, they signed Joseph and Manning and it turned out awesome. Addressing the biggest team need with the 26 pick doesn't sit well with me, and the year Kareem was drafted it was a CB heavy draft. Bring in Wallace, draft the best available player with the 26.
If we sign Wallace we no longer have #26...and I'm fine with that...
He's a deep threat with a bad attitude. I can't see him fitting with the Texans, but we could use a receiver with his skill set.
790 is reporting that Arian Foster has agreed to a 5-year deal. No details yet.
Who will they tag now? Myers? No one?
I am reporting interest in that report. Curious how much we gave him.
Won't mean much if they don't lock up Myers and Brisiel. Get it done, management.
Here are the reported terms:
@JasonLaCanfora: Arian Foster . $43.5M over 5 years, $20.75M guar, $30m in 1st 3 years of deal, $18M in 2012.
Adios Mario. You were good. You were very good.
It's a tough call on Mario. The next 4-5 years for him could be huge, but then again he could get hurt. I say that the Texans needs to find a way to sign him. It may mean that they will leave some holes in the offense but loading up on talented defensive linemen and linebackers is never a bad strategy.
I still say that Brisiel and Myers are more important. As good as Arian is he ain't going anywhere without people to zone block. Get those two done and whatever happens with Mario happens.
Mario was on his ay to a monster season last year, even if our defense was good without him it can be better with him.
The Texans could franchise Mario and then find the money to fund the high 1-year salary. It's just poor planning on the Texans if Mario just signs with another team.
The real question is what are we going to do with Schuab after next season. He will be 32 and isn't the most injury free guy there is. Do you hitch your wagon to that for another 3-5 years?
schaub / barwin / d. brown are all free agents next year
Franchising Mario would cost $21 million against the cap and they would have to be under the cap by March 13. Ain't happening.
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