Well atleast Strong will have more money than God when he's done with Texas. We're very good at overpaying coaches who under-deliver. Manny Diaz is still laughing at the bank.
Last edited by Rocko20; 09-06-2015 at 12:18 AM.
All of that is beside the point. They were historically bad on offense last year. A new coach comes in and is able to make SOMETHING happen with largely the same crew. Charlie has been on the job 18 months. His last three games all probably rank in the top 6 worst performances I've ever seen a Longhorn team put on the field.
It's not on Mack anymore.
There's a reason I intentionally avoid hanging out with you people in the real world.
A lot of you are $#@!ing psychopaths.
Chuckie, if you want us to start over with the UH crew, I cant't argue with you...at least it's an answer.
I can't imagine the $#@!show in recruiting, but I imagine you have that figured out.
Not advocating Strong's firing. However, worrying about who will come here is not a good excuse to not fire anyone. And to answer that question, Chad Morris would come back to Austin in a heartbeat. I think he might do well considering he understands offense and was a high school coach in Texas for 16 years winning 2 titles before jumping to the college ranks.
Applewhite and Giles were about the only coaches whose evaluations I trusted at the end of Mack's regime.
That staff would absolutely kill it in Austin.
Yup, there's no denying what Mack did, but at some point you gotta put it on the man who is here right now to take responsibility for the situation and fix it, not the man who once was. UCLA did not give Jim Mora Jr a "Rick Neuheisel killed this program, so don't worry whatever happens here isn't your fault, it's all Rick's fault" excuse. I think Charlie needs more time to iron things out, but Mack is gone and has no say in what goes on as far as our team is concerned now. It's on Charlie to take it and get us back to the Big 12 number 1 and I hope he does. But you can only have so much time to get the ball rolling.
Recruiting Rankings (per Rivals) :
2011 - Texas #3 / TCU #26 / Baylor # 46
2012 - Texas #2 / TCU #37 / Baylor # 45
2013 - Texas # 24 / Baylor #30 / TCU #31
2014 - Texas # 20 / Baylor #37 / TCU #50
2015 - Texas #15 / TCU #34 / Baylor #43
Final AP Poll
2011 - Texas Unranked / Baylor unranked / TCU unranked
2011 - Baylor #13 / TCU #14/ Texas Unranked
2012 - Texas # 19 / Baylor unranked / TCU unranked
2013 - Baylor #13 / TCU unranked / Texas unranked
2014 - TCU #3 / Baylor # 7 / Texas unranked
There are plenty of quality players on the squad to compete, they are not being coached properly.
Last edited by YoLaDu; 09-06-2015 at 12:38 AM.
We're starting true freshmen in our back 7 on D, and 2 true freshmen on OL. We're going to suck this year; a lot at first, somewhat less near the end.
It's going to take YEARS to fix what Mack left us with. Years.
If we fire Charlie, it will take much, much longer; worse, whoever hires Charlie will be getting the success that we should have had.
Baylor's and TCU's best recruiting class of the last 5 years is not better than our worst of the last 5.
I guess we should figure this out, because we may be fighting for the same 2 star and 3 star players TCU and Baylor pick from every year in the very near future.
Baylor hasn't had more than three 4 star players in a single class in the last 4 years.
Last edited by YoLaDu; 09-06-2015 at 01:00 AM.
We let Mack piss down his leg for 5 years on this program. And you wanna fire Charlie after a second and a game. Cmon now.
Give a good coaching staff a full year plus the offseason and do you thing that there is any chance that Swoops would still be the QB? No, there isn't
It may have taken Kelly 6 years to get where he is depth wise, but he played in the MNC game after only 3 years.
Brian Kelly went 8-5, 8-5 and 12-1 in his first three years with no embarrassing losses...and he was following Charlie Wise.
There isn't an offensive coordinator in all of christendom who could have taken the OL so poor that 2 true freshmen were able to rise to become starters on it and turn a decent offensive performance out of it against an experienced and talented ND DL in their own house.
No one likes losing gotta blame someone I guess.
I expected us to lose and not by less than a TD, but I never expected us to look so inept in every aspect of the game. The lack of improvement was shocking.
I'm just going to start negging the drunken fools who think that what MB left us could've been resolved so quickly.
So far Strong is all hat no cattle. Blame it on Mack, blame it on Watson, blame it on Swoopes, blame it on Red McCombs. Blame anyone and anything you want. But the proof is out there. We're bad, we've been bad, and we're not getting better quick.
Now it's just a question of how patient everyone is. If we continue to get blown out by ranked teams, I don't think it's going to last long.
But Charlie at Louisville had a bunch of draft pics
Mark Dantonio (might not come I guess, but it's f'n Sparty)
Gary Patterson (might not come)
You can make arguments for or against Strong, but "oh noes there is nobody else who could fill the position!!!!" isn't a very plausible one.
Last edited by longhornmatt; 09-06-2015 at 02:22 AM.
We're one game into that 7-6, could be only 6 or 5 wins. But J Gray is getting more than 8 carries from now on and 10, 11, 12 wins is not crazy in year 3
We run a coach after 2, I even say 3- no matter how bad. Welcome to the desert. That would be the ticket
Tonight hurts, but we gotta just swallow and strain to taste bird chirps in the morning
$#@!'s just tough right now
you left off the first coach they should call, chip kelly. his act is wearing thin in philly. couple of weeks back i heard a national sports radio discussion on how chip kelly ends up at ut. national sports guys are already writing off charles strong before the season even started.
There is no bigger Charlie Strong supporter on this board than me, but I'd be a liar if I said that I don't have doubts as to whether we hired the right coach for the job. At this point I'm desperately looking for the smallest indication that we're making progress. I don't see it.
Have wondered since last season if Charlie could succeed here... sometimes a coach just doesn't "fit" even if they have been successful elsewhere (RichRod comes to mind). It's hard to define, but I wonder if he's right for his current role.
The total lack of understanding of clock and game management leads me to believe that Charlie was the absolute wrong hire. He wasn't a HC for a long tiem a reason, and it wasn't because he was black...
Anyone talking about firing Charlie Strong after one season and one game is a $#@!ing full blown regard.
It's not pretty. But neither was the rebuild he stepped into.
I don't think some of you realize that this was not a 1-2 year rebuild. The fact that had NO QB here when Mack Left(including Ash really) and how many players Charlie had to run off(not to mention how many he probably had to keep that he didn't want to, just so he could field a team) should let yall know we're in a long term rebuild.
This is basically a tear down start from scratch...but being Texas you're not allowed to do that.
Dude gets at least 3 years, and probably more than that if we want this done right.
No it's not what you want to hear, but it's needed.
And until the Oline and QB position is fixed it doesn't matter who the $#@! is fired or who the hell is calling plays...it won't look any better than last night.
And he comparison to Kelly and ND is stupid. His offensive cupboard wasn't left bear like Texas was when Mack left.
We realize all of that.
The level of play is beyond all of that. The lack of improvement. Hell, the lack of first downs.....
I'm going to stop. When you would give your left nut for case McCoy at this point....$#@!. $#@! $#@!
D2 schools have more success against Alabama. We don't even look like a $#@!ing football team.
Anyone who thinks Texas getting blown out and struggling in all facets of the game is acceptable in a rebuilding year, is a full blown regard. Charlie Strong gets paid more than Urban Meyer, asking for a competitive team to field, or at least one that has made some progress, shouldn't be too much.
Last edited by Rocko20; 09-06-2015 at 06:15 AM.
I'm so tired of all the apologists. It's Mack Browns fault. It's the Olines fault. It's Swoopes fault. Blah blah.
Who keeps starting Swoopes? Charlie Strong. If Swooopes isn't good enough, start someone else. If no one else on the roster is good enough, you had two off seasons to get a $#@!ing transfer QB, JUCO, whatever. You didn't. Your fault.
This is not Mack Browns fault. That was two years ago. Let's go through all the coaches who have come in and turned teams around who were also left with or inherited a steaming pile of $#@!. And I'm not saying turned them around in year one, but showed signs of improvement and heading in the right direction. Malzahn at Auburn. Sumlin at Aggy. Briles at Baylor. Ole Miss coach. UCLA coach. Chad Morris at SMU. Harsin at Boise State.
It's not the Olines fault. Yes they suck. If your oline can't pass block for $#@!, then call some $#@!ing screens to slow down the rush. Or if they are that bad, you should have got more JUCO help.
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