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    Bobby Wood would've scored...

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    Fuuuck zardes

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    Quote Originally Posted by atllonghorn View Post
    Bobby Wood would've scored...
    Probably

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    That really was fantastic sideline control

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    C'mon Bradley

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    just tuning in at the 60th minute. Zardes looks like $#@!$#@!s already.

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    Someone's gotta attack the ball in the area

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    Wow, bad whatever, Zardes. Wow, Nagbe!

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    Not able to watch at this moment, but reading between the lines, I'm getting the impression that Zardes haz teh suk?

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    Zardes should be out wide if anything. 0-0 72'

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    He just shanked a volley here too. Would have probably been blocked, but another off night

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    Jones with a rip. Yes, Zardes is an "athlete" with a terrible first touch.

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    Bradley has been really bad tonight.

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    Nice. 6 goals over two games so far!

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    tactics are back to bradley era $#@! again. jesus $#@!ing christ. what a miserable team to watch.

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    This $#@! was a rough watch. What's the fix? Do we just not care anymore??


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    There were some positives to come out of that match. By far the best the back 4 have played in almost a calendar year... Maybe more.

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    The defense was so organized tonight because Klinsmann started 4 center backs. He sacrificed his fullbacks going forward by playing Ream and Orozco who are strictly defenders at those positions.

    The biggest key for the US moving forward into 2016 is that DeAndre Yedlin continues to get playing time at Sunderland. His development is critical because he has the biggest unknown ceiling of any player currently featured in Klinsmann player pool. His speed is lethal and he's flashed signs of brilliance at times, but he is incredibly raw as a player. We forget he's only in his third year of professional soccer. He has almost half as many caps for the USMNT (28) as he does in professional leagues (62).

    If Yedlin continues to work at RB which is where Klinsmann prefers him and Sunderland has been playing him, the US has a solid nucleus with one major weakness. Besler and Cameron is a decent pairing. Ream has played well at LB. Bedoya, Yedlin, Johnson, Jozy, Bacon and Wood give you something to work with in attack.

    The problem is, the US has nobody to distribute the ball to the front. For the better part of two years Michael Bradley has been $#@!. In big games his service has been poor. On top of that, Klinsmann continues to pair him with Jones or Beckerman, and none of them are attacking midfielders.

    Before the Hex the US has to find players that can distribute the ball through the midfield. Nagbe has been centrally for Portland. I suspect he'll get the first shot to run the show in the January camp that's mostly MLS guys. Maybe some of the usual snubs get a look as well (Feilhaber, Nguyen).

    The US' best prospects in central midfield are probably Zelalem and Hyndeman and not physical enough yet to play at that level.

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    Good writeup Alt. I actually fell asleep at kickoff and missed the game. Definitely not going to go back and watch this one.

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    A couple of additional thoughts from things I read this morning.

    How do you go into ANY World Cup qualifier comfortable only playing 13 players? They camped in Miami to prepare for the heat in Port of Spain, but Klinsmann kept his third sub in his pocket. Miazga was brought into this camp specifically to cap tie him vs St. V&G, but he really didn't have anyone beyond Wood and Nagbe to try and make some things happen?

    and here's a sobering stat for you:
    In its last 11 competitive (non-friendly) games against teams ranked in the FIFA top 100, the USMNT have been out-shot 10 times. The one team they out-shot was Jamaica in the Gold Cup and that's because Jamaica was up 2-0 and bunkered defensively.

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    I've noticed - in watching other teams - that we rarely move the ball forward quickly or smoothly. IMO, that's where the lack of opportunity arises. Our "attack" comes from winning the ball, playing it back, then forward, then square, back again, and sometimes a winger gets the ball and sends a hopeful ball in the box. Watching Mexico last night, they would go forward quickly as a team, multiple players would touch the ball and the square or back passed were only the last option.

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    I think the reasons for that are multiple, but primarily:

    -We're playing midfielders that struggle to create chances for themselves and others, both off the dribble and via passing.

    -The movement off the ball from most of the attacking players has been poor.

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    The offensive half spacing sucks too. One of two things happens. Either the play ends up being a two-man game on one side of the field OR someone eventually launches some 60 yard pass across the field which is usually intercepted. I'm not sure how or why basic spacing fundamentals are so hard for this team. Hell, my inexperienced high school girls picked up on it pretty quickly.

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    Again, it all comes back to personnel. Bradley and Jones both want the ball and are both mediocre on the ball. Johnson is probably better on the ball than either, but he's a wide player.

    I feel like the spacing tends to be better when Beckerman is playing alongside Bradley because at the very least he understands what he is as an attacking player (which is that he isn't attacking at all), but his lack of foot speed is a liability in CONCACAF when the less skilled teams rely on outrunning the US on counter attacks.

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    I believe that's 3 goals in his last 2 games. Also, the two goals that I've seen have been really solid - one with his left; one with his right.

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    USMNT/CONCACAF World Cup Qualification 2018

    Also, Yedlin was really really bad today vs Arsenal. He can still run fast, and dribble pretty well, and do some tricks, but he was bad. He should fully commit to being an attacker imo, he's closer there than he is at RB. I know he's still young, but he just got abused today. He looked like an attacking player being asked to defend.

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    Not surprised. I'm not entirely sure why he's considered EPL material in the first place.

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    John Anthony Brooks also scored the game winning goal against Bayer Leverkusen.

    I imagine yesterday had to be the first time two different Americans* scored goals against CL teams on the same day.

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    A Rangers supporter posted this on an Arsenal reddit forum-

    Alright Gunner, Rangers season ticket holder here to give an update on how Zelalem has performed so far at Rangers.

    I'll try and be as objective as possible without relying on stats. So as a player, Zelalem really excels when you consider vision, ball control and passing. He arguably possesses the best attributes at Rangers to play that killer pass to a striker. His physique is his obvious shortcoming, that and his tendency to rely on his right foot a little too much. I assume that I'm not breaking any new ground here, the above info was already known about Zelalem before he came to Scotland.

    He has been a regular starter under Mark Warburton, who is a big fan of players like Zelalem, players who are able to pick a pass when the pressure is on (in the form of some Scottish brute bastard centreback bearing down on you from behind) instead of just lumping it away. His range of passing has really impressed. He is as comfortable playing a threading, direct ball to a forward as much as a square pass to another midfielder.

    Due to the nature of the league Rangers are in at the moment, the opposition box can often be packed when Rangers attack, meaning that it can be difficult for creative players to execute a killer pass successfully. Due to this, it is quite often that you'll see the best of Zelalem during a counter-attack. When Zelalem picks the ball up from the centre of the park he is actually quite capable of driving forward. He isn't a speed demon by any stretch of the imagination, and obviously lacks strength, but his ability to change direction when driving forward means that he has had a high success rate of completed dribbles past an opponent.

    One criticism I have of Zelalem has been his tendency to hang onto the ball in order to pick out an inventive pass instead of a simple ball to change your opponents shape. Fortunately, quite often his decision to hang onto the ball proves fruitful because he can consistently pick out great passes that wrongfoot the opposition. Another note is that he tends to refrain from shooting, and what shots he's had have been quite erratic, which is strange considering his technical prowess.

    He has been my favourite player to watch this season, with both his deft touches and ability to shift his body shape to wrongfoot defenders being particularly exciting. It's hard to tell whether Zelalem will be a started for Arsenal in the future. What I will say is that his play style really embodies Arsenal's philosophy as far as I'm concerned, and if he did add goals to his game and improve his physique then I wouldn't be surprised if he could feature in the future for you guys.

    Apologies for repeating myself a bit, if you guys have any questions, please ask away. Cheers.

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    But with Zelalem, I actually think the symptoms are worse than the problem. People will focus on how small and thin he is and how it supposedly means he'll be pushed off the ball.

    But Zelalem actually doesn't really give the opposition the opportunity to win the ball from him by strength very often. He tends to use his agility which means that if he is tackled, it's usually an illegal one. I haven't really seen him be dispossessed due to being outmuscled, his awareness and ability to change his body shape is too good for him to be caught.

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    We need to find legitimate right and left backs so we can finally put Johnson in a midfield role. That kid is too good offensively to have him so far back.

    Same can be said for Yedlin except that kid is too bad defensively to have him so far back.

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    Julian Green starting for Bayern Munich in their UCL match today

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    how did JG end up performing?

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    Sounds decent enough:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/1...over-two-years

    ST. PETERSBURG, Russia – Bayern Munich youngster Julian Green saw senior team action for the first time in over two years on Wednesday night, working 62 minutes as the Bavarians closed out Champions League group phase play with a 2-0 victory at Dinamo Zagreb.

    The US international got the start on right wing, but eventually slid across to the left flank before being removed mere seconds after Robert Lewandowski bagged the winning goal. Green put on a decent if uneventful display, completing 15 of 18 passes.

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    Green served three crosses into the box, including one that caused a bit of stress for the Dinamo back line. The 20-year-old also pitched in with two interceptions, with one at the door to the Bayern box, and a clearance at the defensive end.

    As Group F winners, Bayern will be in the seeded half of the Round of 16 draw, which will take place on Monday. The opening leg of the next round will begin on February 16.

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    asshat shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? shnsajax's Avatar
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    Guessing Jordan Morris's college career is now over. Who's going to be the one paying? Hope he picks Europe over Seattle.

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    Half way through the year and Zelalem is the runaway winner for most successful Arsenal loanee. Rangers just extended his loan to the end of the year as well. I'd bet that he'll be heavily featured in the first team in Arsenal's preseason next year. Alex Iwobe and Jeff Reine-Adelaide did so this past summer and both have played for the first team this year and regularly make the bench. Iwobi actually played in our match just a day ago. Good trajectory for Zelalem.

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