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    Texas drops a spot in the AP poll to #16. Ok. VA Tech had a big leap from 18 to 15 and Oregon State from 16 to 10.

    Duke LOST to FSU and gained a spot. $#@! that bull$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    Texas drops a spot in the AP poll to #16. Ok. VA Tech had a big leap from 18 to 15 and Oregon State from 16 to 10.

    Duke LOST to FSU and gained a spot. $#@! that bull$#@!.
    All that matters is the RPI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasStrong12 View Post
    All that matters is the RPI.
    Well we are 29th right now, but as I mentioned in the OK State thread, we have 5 games against the top 10 still and 5 games against teams 20-30 still. So not worried.

    Just win, baby.

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    Charlie Crème updated the top 16 seeds, we are not in there yet:

    UConn, Baylor, MD, SoCar, Miss St, ND, FSU, Oregon St, L'ville, Ohio St., Wash, Stanford, ASU, VT, UCLA, Duke.

    I think we can easily pass Duke and VT to get into the top 16.

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    Rellah Boothe and Chastity Patterson both nominees for McDonalds AA.

    Their addition to our roster would give us 9 McDonalds All Americans next year: Brooke, Ariel, Lashann, Hosey, Sutton, Boothe, Patterson, Holmes, White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    Charlie Crème updated the top 16 seeds, we are not in there yet:

    UConn, Baylor, MD, SoCar, Miss St, ND, FSU, Oregon St, L'ville, Ohio St., Wash, Stanford, ASU, VT, UCLA, Duke.

    I think we can easily pass Duke and VT to get into the top 16.
    Ohio State lost to Michigan State last night. Next week's top 16 might put us in with a win over WVU.

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    Gail won 102 games in 166 games over 5 seasons.

    Karen is in year 5, has 100 wins in 150 games with 13 more conference games + Big 12 tournament + NCAA.

    Entering this year's Big 12 play, Karen had 40 Big 12 wins. Which is what Gail finished with. Now has 45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    Gail won 102 games in 166 games over 5 seasons.

    Karen is in year 5, has 100 wins in 150 games with 13 more conference games + Big 12 tournament + NCAA.

    Entering this year's Big 12 play, Karen had 40 Big 12 wins. Which is what Gail finished with. Now has 45.
    Yep, Gail did less with more and had arguably weaker pre-conference schedules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txex86 View Post
    Yep, Gail did less with more and had arguably weaker pre-conference schedules.
    Gail's non-conf notables:
    2007: Tennessee (L)
    2008: Tennessee (W)
    2009: Tennessee (L), USC (L)
    2010: Stanford (L), Tennessee (W)
    2011: Tennessee (L)

    Karen's non-conf notables:
    2012: Tennessee (L)
    2013: Stanford (L), A&M (W), Tennessee (L)
    2014: Stanford (W), UCLA (W), Tennessee (W), A&M (W)
    2015: Tennessee (W), Miss. St (W), Stanford (W)
    2016: Stanford (L), Miss St. (L), SoCar (L), UConn (L), Tennessee (W)

    Let's not forget, while Karen is 0-fer against Baylor, Gail got her clock cleaned by Gary Blair and A&M until her last year. And the Big 12 is tougher now than it was then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    Let's not forget, while Karen is 0-fer against Baylor, Gail got her clock cleaned by Gary Blair and A&M until her last year. And the Big 12 is tougher now than it was then.
    Agreed. Gail was an awful fit at Texas and could never (re)capture the recruiting prowess she had at Duke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txex86 View Post
    Agreed. Gail was an awful fit at Texas and could never (re)capture the recruiting prowess she had at Duke.
    Duke, like Stanford, recruits itself. Texas requires recruiting players, their parents, their HS coaches, their AAU coaches. Gail didn't want to play that game, turned off alumni (many of whom are Texas HS and AAU coaches) and was generally regarded as a bitchy outsider.

    That was one of the worst Plonsky hires, not just based on fit, but how much money we handed her to tank us. Karen deserves all the monies for getting us out of that spiral and back to prominence in both recruiting and the NCAA tournament.

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    Ten point jump in RPI from Sat to Sun (23 to 13). Also 11th in Sagarin

    And Duke and Miami both lost today. Opportunities to move up in the rankings with that win over WV

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    Ten point jump in RPI from Sat to Sun (23 to 13). Also 11th in Sagarin

    And Duke and Miami both lost today. Opportunities to move up in the rankings with that win over WV
    We will finish in the top 16 in RPI even with 8 or so losses. Still multiple games left against fairly high RPI teams.

    I was never worried about this team's resume even with a bunch of losses early. Our RPI will be good as long as we don't collapse to end the season.

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    In terms of RPI, we still have:

    @#5 FSU
    @#9 Baylor
    home against #9 Baylor
    @ #11 KSU
    home against #11 KSU
    @#21 OU
    home against #21 OU
    @#26 Tech

    We will play several good teams in the Big 12 tourney too. Our schedule is pretty stacked this year. 5 really tough road games remaining. If we can just win 2 or 3 of those it would be huge for RPI.
    Last edited by TexasStrong12; 01-15-2017 at 08:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasStrong12 View Post
    We will finish in the top 16 in RPI even with 8 or so losses. Still multiple games left against fairly high RPI teams.

    I was never worried about this team's resume even with a bunch of losses early. Our RPI will be good as long as we don't collapse to end the season.
    Agreed. Nice to see us go from 30 to 23 to 13 on this winning streak. Especially as our non conference losses keep winning.

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    That FSU game looms large. If we can pull off a win there, I think our tournament seed will shoot up big time.

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    Joyner Holmes is averaging 11.1 points and 6.9 rebounds per game as a true freshman. She certainly needs to improve in some areas, but that's very good production for a true freshman.

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    Let me go off on a Joyner discussion.

    She's good. 11.1/6.9 halfway through her first collegiate season is great. Against our top 25 teams we've played, she's averaging 9.3 ppg and 4.8 rbg. Which, as a freshman, is really good. The 3.3 turnovers / 1.7 apg in those 6 contests is not great. Nor is her 61.9% FT shooting.

    But - she does a lot of things well. She cleans up the boards well enough - 36 offensive boards already. She runs the break well. She has tremendous body control when she drives to the bucket.

    My only negatives on her right now are 2 things - her jump shot isn't good and she knows it, so she won't shoot it when other teams give it to her and she is missing too many shots at the rim -- she'd be hitting closer to 50% than 43% from the floor if she finishes at least half those layups.

    I think she's a phenomenal talent. And I think she's getting better and better. I love having her here. But in order to really utilize her as a stretch 4, which is what many of us hoped for, she has to get that jump shot going.

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    Slipped a spot to 14 after yesterday's game. But we play RPI #23 tomorrow.

    Interested to see if Charlie Crème updates this week and where he has us.

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    #12 in the AP poll

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    http://www.espn.com/womens-college-b...l/bracketology

    Top 16!

    Texas up to the 4-seed in Lexington. Not the worst road trip. Interesting to note that Stanford can't host, so that does open up a hosting spot for a non-top 16 seed (in this case, #6 A&M will host). I like this seeding - Ohio State is a one-trick team and we played SC very well when we were still figuring things out.

    Ok State is last 4 in, WV is last 4 out.

    Baylor (1) in Dallas
    Texas (4) in Lexington
    KSU (4) in Bridgeport
    OU (6) in Bridgeport
    Tech (9) in Stockton
    Ok State (10) in Stockton

    By this bracketology, we will have played every #1 seed (5 games total) and a #2 seed.

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    Tenn knocks off ND. Huge RPI win for us. Wow



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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    http://www.espn.com/womens-college-b...l/bracketology

    Top 16!

    Texas up to the 4-seed in Lexington. Not the worst road trip. Interesting to note that Stanford can't host, so that does open up a hosting spot for a non-top 16 seed (in this case, #6 A&M will host). I like this seeding - Ohio State is a one-trick team and we played SC very well when we were still figuring things out.

    Ok State is last 4 in, WV is last 4 out.

    Baylor (1) in Dallas
    Texas (4) in Lexington
    KSU (4) in Bridgeport
    OU (6) in Bridgeport
    Tech (9) in Stockton
    Ok State (10) in Stockton

    By this bracketology, we will have played every #1 seed (5 games total) and a #2 seed.
    Just keep us out of UConn's region. Surely, they won't do that to us three years in a row, right?

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    I hope not. You have a couple reasons -
    1. No one wants to see UConn/Texas before the FF for the third time in 3 postseasons AND for the second time this season
    2. We already played at Mohegan Sun in CT, that would be a bitch move to make us fly up there again this season

    If geography is so damn important, Lexington is our best option since they won't put us in Dallas most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    I hope not. You have a couple reasons -
    1. No one wants to see UConn/Texas before the FF for the third time in 3 postseasons AND for the second time this season
    2. We already played at Mohegan Sun in CT, that would be a bitch move to make us fly up there again this season

    If geography is so damn important, Lexington is our best option since they won't put us in Dallas most likely.
    Geography doesn't seem to be nearly as important for basketball as their silly rule about conferences not playing each other in the regional rounds. The procedural bumps to keep the Pac-12 teams out of each other's regions is supposedly what screwed us last year. With 4 teams in the Pac and 4 teams in the ACC all in the 2-4 seed range it could result in the same problem.

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    Without including the band members, it looks like there are well under 1000 fans at this red river shoot out game. Classes are back in session now so there's really no excuse for attendance that low

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    Considering our starting 5 is 2 seniors, 2 juniors and a freshman and our entire bench rotation is underclassmen or newcomers (2 freshman, 2 sophomores, 2 newcomers) - 7-0 in the Big 12 is a huge accomplishment.

    Our starting 5 is so steady but our second unit is getting better. Sutton runs the point really well, giving Brooke rest and/or time at the 2 to keep her fresh. The twins are still rusty, but we are seeing improvements every game. No surprise VPL ate Audrey-Anne's lunch yesterday, VPL is one of the most experienced post players in the Big 12. I love Underwood off the bench as an offensive sparkplug and Hosey on the defensive end.

    This team really has the tenacity and fortitude to start off Big 12 play with 10 or 11 consecutive wins before KState/Baylor. Enjoy this while we can - that KState/@Baylor/KU/@FSU/@OU/Baylor stretch is going to hurt. And either show the country that we are a force to be reckoned with (2/3 seed) or we still have work to do (4/5 seed). That stretch will also decide whether we are the 2 or 3 seed in the Big 12 tournament.

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    Through 7 games, Texas ranks:

    5th in scoring offense (74.2)
    4th in scoring defense (58.3)
    3rd in scoring margin (+15.9)
    3rd in FG % (45.3)
    3rd in FG % defense (35.2)
    6th in 3pt FG % (34.5)
    4th in 3pt FG % defense (28.7)
    2nd in rebounding margin (+12.2)
    4th in blocked shots (5.8 bpg)
    6th in turnover margin (+1.4)

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    The first "Top 16 reveal" will take place Monday during the Miss St. - SC game. The committee decided top 16 should be revealed (in order) instead of top 10.

    The second will take place during the L'ville-ND game on 2/6

    The third will take place on 2/20 during Maryland-Ohio State (followed by Baylor @ Texas).

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    Baylor "only" won by 26 over ISU last night in Waco.

    Baylor's three point shooting sucked $#@! (2-11) and they had 6 more turnovers than ISU. But Kalani Brown, Nina Davis and Kadijja Cave went 17-21 in the paint (their 4/5 game), hence, the big win (48.3% shooting overall).

    Either it was an off shooting night or Karen and co. will be watching this tape religiously for weeks (Alexis Jones 1-12, Alexis Prince 1-8, Kirsty Wallace 2-6). Baylor's guards were piss last night.

    Few teams in Big 12 play have both the size/experience on the interior (Lang) and an athletic PF who can guard Nina Davis (Holmes) like we do.

    K-State only won by 11 over TCU at home.

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