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    oh good i forgot to set my lineup today, grats on win derka. thanks for the awesome trade offer

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    So is that a 'yes' on the trade offer?

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    MK: Griffin is expected to be out 4-6 weeks, which means he'll return with 4-6 weeks left in the regular season. You need to win now just to make the playoffs, and getting what amounts to a 3-for-1 deal for the next 4-6 weeks (and includes Jimmy Butler) is something I think you should consider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    MK: Griffin is expected to be out 4-6 weeks, which means he'll return with 4-6 weeks left in the regular season. You need to win now just to make the playoffs, and getting what amounts to a 3-for-1 deal for the next 4-6 weeks (and includes Jimmy Butler) is something I think you should consider
    Thanks but I'm sure you can appreciate the rest of the league not being too keen on that deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Knight View Post
    Thanks but I'm sure you can appreciate the rest of the league not being too keen on that deal
    I don't really care what they think. Nobody seemed to like that last trade that went down. Doesn't matter. Besides, Jimmy Butler + two everyday starters for Gordon Hayward and a guy who's out for 50% of the reaminging reular season isn't an unfair trade to begin with. In my opinion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    I don't really care what they think. Nobody seemed to like that last trade that went down. Doesn't matter. Besides, Jimmy Butler + two everyday starters for Gordon Hayward and a guy who's out for 50% of the reaminging reular season isn't an unfair trade to begin with. In my opinion anyway.
    dude i would maybe trade gordon hayward for jimmy butler straight up, 2 scrubs are not worth blake griffin

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    I have no idea what actual offers are flying around, but Hayward and Butler are on the season almost identical statistically. So you're really looking at Blake for the other 2 players.



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    dude i would maybe trade gordon hayward for jimmy butler straight up, 2 scrubs are not worth blake griffin
    My advice is basically to read what you said

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    2016-17 shaggy fantasy basketball league

    So it's Jimmy Butler for Hayward and then Swaggy P (who's hitting like 5 threes per game) + Will Barton or Trevor Booker for the next 4-6 weeks with no Griffin.

    I haven't actually made that offer yet, but that's where I'm going. I have to make MK turn down the $#@!tier offers first. Also, Booker is slumping right now, but he's been awesome this year. Prone to go off for 13+ rebounds at any given time, tons of OREB, and was top 5 in the NBA in steals for most of the year. Categories like 3PM, STL, and OREB are at such a premium that having 1-2 players who excel at them can win you that category most weeks. The players I'm offering give you 3PM, STL, and OREB; plus Jimmy Butler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Knight View Post
    dude i would maybe trade gordon hayward for jimmy butler straight up, 2 scrubs are not worth blake griffin
    Ok but you offered me Hayward and Griffin for Greak Freek and Bledsoe. I wouldn't take that trade if Griffin was healthy, and he's out for 4-6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Ok but you offered me Hayward and Griffin for Greak Freek and Bledsoe. I wouldn't take that trade if Griffin was healthy, and he's out for 4-6 weeks.
    It was for Brandon Knight and it was a counter offer to your other deals. I did not expect you to accept but I would gladly take that trade.

    Your original offer was Jimmy Butler and Marvin Williams
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    Knight, Bledsoe, same difference.

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    Soooooo... Mike Knight you looking to offload Blake for peanuts? I have Markieff Morris who was a top 50 asset 2 years ago and Rodney hood who hates playing 3 games without getting injured.

    Technically I can't offer a trade since I'm sandbagging Warren on my IR even though he's back, but you're welcome to do that 1 for 1 and pick up Hood off FA haha

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    On a mostly unrelated note. Is anyone else getting completely overrun by games played this week? Granted I'm not streaming anyone so it could be that (opponent has done 3 streams for a bonus 3 games), but by week's end Capn will have outplayed me by at minimum 11 games.

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    It feels like I have had multiple weeks where that killed me, RC. Nice to have one back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Categories like 3PM, STL, and OREB, and BLK are at such a premium that having 1-2 players who excel at them can win you that category most weeks. The players I'm offering give you 3PM, STL, and OREB; plus Jimmy Butler.
    For example, here are this week's leaders in 3PM:

    Zach Lavine- 18
    Swaggy P- 16
    JJ Red$#@!- 16
    Isaiah Thomas- 14
    Klay Thomspon- 14
    Steph Curry- 14

    I have Swaggy P and Isaiah Thomas and I won 3PM by 12. I was 4th best in the league in that categroy, despite my next best players (Will Barton and Jimmy Butler) only hitting 4 apiece.

    Here are the leaders in blocks wthis week:

    Porzingis- 9
    Turner- 9
    Anthony Davis- 8
    Whiteside- 8
    Ibaka-7
    T Thompson- 6
    Taj Gibson- 6
    Cousins- 6

    Everyone who owns one of these players won blocks this week, except for whoever owns Davis, as he went up against the guy who has Turner, Porzingis, and Cousins (Jesus dude). That's a 5-1 record this week in the BLK category for any team who owned one single guy with 6+ blocks, with the one loss coming against an unstoppable blocking trio.

    It's same with OREB. Only one matchup saw the team with single highest offensive rebounder on it lose the category, and it was an excpetionally weak OREB matchup where team A (featuring LeBron and his 10 OREB) lost OREB to Team B (who had Taj Gibson as their high man with 9). My team with Whiteside (14) won; the team with LaMarcus (16) won; the team with Tristan Thomspn (29 OREB!!!!) won; the team with Horford (10) and Ibaka (9) beat their opponent who had 9 of their 12 players combine for 9 total OREB on the week; the team With Anthony Davis (15) again lost because his opponent had 7 players with 4+ OREB vs Team Davis' two.

    Point of all of this being: the stats which are harder to accrue (blocks, steals, oreb, 3pm, ftm) can be easily won with 1-2 players who excel at them. These types of things should be recognized and taken into account when offering, reviewing, or prognosticating on trades. Not everyone on your team has to score 25 or get a DD every night to have a big impact.
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    Good post Derka. That is the reason on paper some of the trades that I declined looked good at face value, but I was losing more of the premium stat values.

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    Vin, are you managing your team? I know you've set your lineups for a long time, but you're still starting injured players and aren't making any acquisitions.

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    I need ESPN to help me out and label some guys as Out. Ive had two players each miss two straight but they are listed as DTD.

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    I need ESPN to help me out and label some guys as Out. Ive had two players each miss two straight but they are listed as DTD.
    Often it's the team's policy on announcements that jacks with this... If they don't give a firm out designation even if the injury is serious they might not do it until the announcement comes.

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    Still sucks that you have a player who is out for multiple days yet you can't put him on your IR.

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    I was 18 of 64 (28%) on the night yesterday... and thats BOOSTED by 43% shooting from Batum and DeRozen (15 of 35)

    Check out this trifecta!
    Covington 0 of 11
    Favors 1 of 7
    Warren 2 of 11

    3 of 29 for 10.3%

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    Yeah so vin still isn't managing his team and that's not gonna fly with me. Filling out your lineup for a month does not equal managing your team, and anyone who plays vin is getting a free 8-10 wins. He's starting injured players and isn't making any adds or drops. Bottom line is that he isn't even acknowledging that his team exists. You'll lose TO, and I guess you could lose FG%, but it's a guaranteed win for all stat categories which accrue throughout the week.

    Seriously, he's out. Give someone his team right now and let's legitimize this league. I'm not putting my money up to play a game that's rigged against me. In fact I've only paid half of my league dues to this point, and I don't think I'm gonna pay the rest until we have an active owner for every team in the league.
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    So, Chris Paul plays the other night and he's no longer eligible for IR. I activate him and within 30 minutes, I get a notification that he's not playing tonight. Now he's day to day.

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    For the record I'm not threatening to withhold my league dues, just making a point that it's difficult for me to justify putting my money up when everyone who plays against Vin gets a free 8 to 10 wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    For the record I'm not threatening to withhold my league dues
    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    In fact I've only paid half of my league dues to this point, and I don't think I'm gonna pay the rest until we have an active owner for every team in the league.
    Lol.



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    You are so weird and pathetic. Are you stalking me?

    I couldn't go back and edit my post, so I wanted to make it clear to those who actually play in this league that regardless of what vin does (or doesn't) do I'm not going to screw anyone else over by not paiying my league dues.

    But seriously, you have $#@!in problems man. It seems that your entire life is consumed by two things: watching porn, and obsessing over me. $#@!in weirdo.

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    $#@!, he beat 7-5 and is only two games back of me. Man my team sucks.

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    Well to be fair he's had two starters get injured since then. You just had the poor luck of playing him right after he set his lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCRanger03 View Post
    On a mostly unrelated note. Is anyone else getting completely overrun by games played this week? Granted I'm not streaming anyone so it could be that (opponent has done 3 streams for a bonus 3 games), but by week's end Capn will have outplayed me by at minimum 11 games.
    yup. the last week has been nuts. Zero players on my roster playing on Tuesday and Thursday, while I had 12 and 13 rostered players with games on wednesday and Friday. And tomorrow I have 2 in action.. pain in the ass and a big reason I am getting my ass kicked this week

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    2016-17 shaggy fantasy basketball league

    Guys, don't make this like the baseball league where I get painted to be the $#@! because I'm the only who speaks up while everyone else stands around silently.



    I'm going to get passed in the standings this week by BO because he gets a free pass against a guy who has not managed his team all year. Nope. Not gonna work.

    Vin is out. There is no argument to keep him. I do not accept that my opponents get a leg up on me because they have Vin on their schedule. Send him his money back, assign his team to someone who wants to be in the league next year, and let's move on with a fair league.
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    Seriously? This is how it's gonna be again? Nobody else has anything to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Guys, don't make this like the baseball league where I get painted to be the $#@! because I'm the only who speaks up while everyone else stands around silently.
    To be fair I don't think that you're the ONLY $#@! in this league.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Seriously? This is how it's gonna be again? Nobody else has anything to say?
    As I posted before the season started (when we should have agreed on a standard), and again a months ago. I'm behind getting a new owner or crowdsource setting his roster (IMO he shouldn't get his money back the investment was made). If we do the latter we should lock trades on his team (no dealing off his good players).

    If it's helpful to the league I'll crunch the numbers to see what the actual effect on the final tally the non setting of the roster has.
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    You still can't account for not adding any players. DREB was close for me this week so I dropped a player for Joakim Noah and as of now I'm maintaining my slim lead in the category. Nobody who plays Vin has to worry about these things.

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    I am cool with the league making changes. We definitely need changes being made just to balance things out.

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    I say who cares, he paid his money let him run/not run his team how he wants. Whats the difference between someone who doesn't set his lineup vs someone who drafts Karl Anthony Towns #2 overall? Are you gonna complain when you play someone a week before half their players get hurt?

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    Harden with 53/17/16 on vin's bench tonight. Two straight TDs on his bench.

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    These are just facts:

    If I was playing BO (my direct competition) I'd be winning 8-3-1, and not a single one of my 8 categories is even close. That would be the final score between the two of us.

    Instead, he is going to pass me in the standings when he wins 11-1-0 this week because James Harden, and Paul Milsap, and Kenneth Fareid are on Vin's bench. It just doesn't fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    These are just facts:

    If I was playing BO (my direct competition) I'd be winning 8-3-1, and not a single one of my 8 categories is even close. That would be the final score between the two of us.

    Instead, he is going to pass me in the standings when he wins 11-1-0 this week because James Harden, and Paul Milsap, and Kenneth Fareid are on Vin's bench. It just doesn't fly.
    guess who you play next week, it all evens out

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    I'm well aware that he's on my schedule for next week, I've known that for sometime. That still does not cause things to even out. I'm not having any problem winning eight, nine, 10+ games against active managers. What I don't need is my competition getting a free 11 wins when they otherwise would have won 6 or 7.

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    we have the same record jerk off. i'm not having any problems winning eight, nine, 10+ games against active managers either. i haven't been adding/dropping players every day lately either because it's the holidays and i have a life outside of fantasy sports.

    and threatening not to pay the rest of your entry fee?? guess which of not managing your team and not paying your entry fee will get you kicked out of this league faster?

    also i'd be willing to bet that as tired as you are of vin not managing his team, there are several of us who are just as tired of reading your whiny bull$#@! post after post. that definitely makes this league super fun!

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    long story short, it's a $50 entry fee league in which you currently have the best record. stop bitching about everything.

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    and go ahead and spare me the inevitable long ass PM. i don't want to read it.

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    You know what? $#@! you. What is your $#@!ing problem in the first place? I have a completely legit beef with Vin, not you, and instead of even addressing it you're cussing ME out! Seriously- what the $#@!.

    Seriously BO, what the $#@! is your problem? Why in the ever living $#@! are you insulting me? Did I insult you? Did I talk down on you? Did I say ANYTHING AT ALL even remotely $#@!ed up or disparaging up to/about you? Nope! Not a thing! But I am so sorry that pointing out how unfair this is has hurt your precious little snowflake feelings, for what reason I do not know.

    Grow the $#@! up BO. And start acting like the $#@!ing commissioner of this $#@!ing league. Or don't. Just keep doing what you've been doing. Just ignore this thread the entire time you play the guy who gives you a free 11 wins you didn't earn, and then come in cussing out ME for pointing out that it isn't fair.

    I don't need to PM you my feelings you little $#@!. $#@! you.
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    And thanks to everyone else for saying nothing. Thanks for making me the bad guy again. Baseball season all over again.

    The dude does not manage his team. This is not fair, and it's been going on all year. And now I've got to deal with yet another $#@!ing retard loser with little precious baby snowflake feelings who will hate me forever because I had the audacity to demand that a game I pay money to play be remotely fair. $#@! everyone here for that.
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    And for the record anyone in this league who thinks I deserve to be voted out over Vin has $#@!ed up priorities. So you go ahead and poll the league BO, see what they say. If you think me fighting to make this league fair means I need to be kicked out then you're an even bigger piece of $#@! then you're already showing yourself to be.

    The dude doesnt play his best players against you and you don't say a goddamn word about it, you want to cry about goddamn ME. Why? Why the $#@! is your anger aimed at me? $#@! you.

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    I'll take his place and legitimize the $#@! out of your league

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    Please do. We also are in need of an actual commissioner, so maybe you can do that as well.

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    asshat RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson might be a clever chap. or know the right people. know what i mean, nudge nudge? RexWilson's Avatar
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    I guess Vin went back to not setting lineup the week aftet he played me. I missed out on the easy 8+ points.

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