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    The offseason is about to get going. No clue what the Rangers are going to do. From reading around it seems like they will have 25-30 million available.

    Also reports that FO wants Gallo to stay in the minors for at least the start of next season. His value is rock bottom.

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    I doubt Desmond signs our QO. But we will get a 1st round pick if he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mackey View Post
    I doubt Desmond signs our QO. But we will get a 1st round pick if he doesn't.
    No way he takes it imo

    What do you think about Fowler?

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    I would not mind that. You think the Cubs let him walk? I don't keep up much with the NL.

    We really need a stronger outfield defensively. I move Gomez to center for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mackey View Post
    I would not mind that. You think the Cubs let him walk? I don't keep up much with the NL.

    We really need a stronger outfield defensively. I move Gomez to center for starters.
    I don't think the Cubs will keep him. They already have too many OF especially with Heyward and his massive contract in RF, and Schwarber, Soler, and Almora all needing everyday playing time. Cubs also have Zobrist playing a lot of LF with Baez at 2B. They are stacked everywhere.

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    Fowler / Gomez / Mazara would be good.

    I like Fowler's high OBP. Rangers need someone who can get on base consistently and Desmond is not the answer. I think Fowler will be cheaper too.

    I also think a platoon of Rua and someone like Colby Rasmus in LF with Gomez in CF could work and be cheap. Or sign Fowler and platoon Rua with Gallo at 1b. Maybe get Profar in the mix.

    I'm really hoping and thinking that some team at the winter meetings is going to do something stupid and overpay for Gallo or Profar.

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    Gomez will go in the tank again, because it's what he does. He was a great pickup short term on the cheap, but he is what he is. He's a massively overrated player who has occasional great streaks, but mostly ice cold for the majority of the year.

    Desmond is somewhat similar, but his floor isn't as low and he's not as prone to long-term total suckage. The Rangers got the best season possible out of him and they should be thankful for it. At top dollar, he's not worth the price. Though I would love to have him back at a reasonable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougO View Post
    Gomez will go in the tank again, because it's what he does. He was a great pickup short term on the cheap, but he is what he is. He's a massively overrated player who has occasional great streaks, but mostly ice cold for the majority of the year.

    Desmond is somewhat similar, but his floor isn't as low and he's not as prone to long-term total suckage. The Rangers got the best season possible out of him and they should be thankful for it. At top dollar, he's not worth the price. Though I would love to have him back at a reasonable price.
    How is going in the tank what Gomez does? He had 5 or so seasons spanning from pretty good to MVP level before he ever went to Houston.

    Gomez was a superstar. He was slated to make over $150 million this offseason if he had a good year. Totally worth a 1-2 year investment to see what he has left. Even if he sucks, the Rangers don't need much. Just provide good defense in CF.

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    DougO'd.

    He wasn't very good before he was traded to Houston or when he was at Houston.

    And that may be the player he is from now on(despite the bump when he came here).

    But he wasn't a guy who "occasionally was great" and then not, like a roller coaster.

    He was good. Then he wasn't for 2 years. Maybe he turns it around, maybe he doesn't.

    But don't misrepresent the player like that.

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    The Big 12, where screen passes and out routes go for 50 yds

    I hate this conference
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    The Big 12, where screen passes and out routes go for 50 yds

    I hate this conference
    Oops wrong thread whatever!!!

    Go Rangers!!

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    what the $#@! is that rasmus $#@!? strong pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfrenzy#1fan View Post
    How is going in the tank what Gomez does? He had 5 or so seasons spanning from pretty good to MVP level before he ever went to Houston.

    Gomez was a superstar. He was slated to make over $150 million this offseason if he had a good year. Totally worth a 1-2 year investment to see what he has left. Even if he sucks, the Rangers don't need much. Just provide good defense in CF.
    Agreed. Disagree with his take on Gomez. I hope we re sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMAAA View Post
    what the $#@! is that rasmus $#@!? strong pass.
    All I'm saying is if the Rangers resign Desmond (or signing Fowler) and add starting pitching like a Rich Hill / Cashner / Volquez, then money will be extremely tight.

    A platoon in LF of Rasmus and Rua sounds a whole lot better than making Rua the everyday or platooning Rua with Profar.

    Rasmus will be dirt cheap, is a very good LFer, crushes righties, and can play CF.

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    http://www.fanragsports.com/frs-news...l-free-agency/

    Free agent outfielder Carlos Gomez will be seeking a long multiyear deal — perhaps even five years — on the free-agent market despite an uncharacteristically rocky 2016 season.


    “You just don’t find this kind of player on the market,” Boras said.

    The Rangers have interest in bringing him back (as they do with Ian Desmond, as well) but early talks have not found common ground to date. The Rangers also like Desmond very much, and are expected to make him a qualifying offer of $17.2 million Monday.

    Boras pointed out that Gomez, by virtue of his movement from Houston to Texas in-season, can not get a qualifying offer, which should aid him in free agency. The agent also credited the Rangers with helping him receive information that aided his vision, and led to a stark turnaround in performance.

    While Gomez had an uncharacteristically rough ’16 season, Boras pointed out that Matt Holliday didn’t have his usual great performance in Oakland before a stellar finish in St. Louis prior to him signing a huge free-agent deal, and also that Curtis Granderson didn’t have a great walk year before signing a $60 million, four-year deal.
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    Give me Gomez any day of the week over Desmond. He's a true outfielder. Desmond is not. Would not be surprised if he goes back to his natural position in the infield.

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    And man I was really wrong on Holland and everyone else was right in no one wanting his $#@!ty ass:

    TR Sullivan ‏@Sullivan_Ranger 52s52 seconds ago
    Derek Holland will be a free agent... it will be made official today as will be the qualifying offer for Ian Desmond... No trade for Holland

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    yeah no $#@! just blow the whole thing up.

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    thank god knox is gone, his bits were cringeworthy. so the rangers have made the QO to Desmond today, wonder if he accepts or risk what happened to him last year with the Nationals...

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    would take edwin in a heartbeat. but they better have a pitching plan as well.

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    Good riddance Knox. You are terrible.

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    Cleveland didn't make Napoli an offer. Bring him back for another stint? He's great for the clubhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMAAA View Post
    would take edwin in a heartbeat. but they better have a pitching plan as well.
    I really like Edwin. Great player and even sweeter if there are some astros tears involved. But just thinking, if the Rangers are going to break open the bank for EE, why wouldn't they just use that money for Cespedes? They will probably have a similar AAV...

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    Beltre won the Gold Glove for 3B and Moreland won the Gold Glove for 1B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhornfrenzy#1fan View Post
    I really like Edwin. Great player and even sweeter if there are some astros tears involved. But just thinking, if the Rangers are going to break open the bank for EE, why wouldn't they just use that money for Cespedes? They will probably have a similar AAV...
    Cespedes will probably be a longer deal as he is 31 and EE is 33

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPM View Post
    Cleveland didn't make Napoli an offer. Bring him back for another stint? He's great for the clubhouse.

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    Desmond turns down rangers qualifying offer and will hit free agency

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    That was a given. Hope he gets big money, seems like a good guy.

    Hellickson accepted the Phils qualifying offer. Not too notable, but MLB Trade Rumors had predicted the Rangers were going to sign his $#@!ty ass for 4/60 million. Out of their minds, seems like the league agrees.

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    4/60 was too much but i would have liked him here as a 3 or 4 starter. pitching market is getting thin quick.

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    realistically, who do you guys think they could get for profar right now? #3 starter? #4?

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    I'll give it a shot, but I'm probably off:

    It comes down to who needs a middle infielder and who is willing to deal arms. Not many teams.

    Mets, Padres, Dodgers, Mariners, Diamondbacks, maybe Royals are the ones I can think of that are possible.

    Zack Wheeler/ Archie Bradley / James Paxton

    Wildcards that may include more prospects: Tyson Ross once he recovers / Matt Harvey especially if he has truly regressed / Tajuan Walker if the Mariners give up on him / Yordano Ventura if he completely pisses of the Royals FO.

    No clue if the Rays stick with Matt Duffy at SS. Either way, Profar plus for one of their SP. Profar / Gallo / plus / plus / plus for Archer.

    I'm sure I am forgetting a few teams and a few players and that the Rangers will do something completely different.

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    Just an fyi, multiple reports over the last few days that suggest the Rangers are not interested in resigning Beltran.

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    No surprise. Most thought he'd only be here the last stretch of last season.

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    Heyman:

    6. Ian Desmond, $64 million, four years. After last winter’s disaster, he should score bigly. Desmond has proved to be a decent center fielder, so with added versatility, he showed have many more suitors. The Rangers love him.


    17. Carlos Gomez, $25 million, two years. This one could be anything, because at his best he’s better than Fowler and an $80-million player. And early last year, well … He did resurrect things in Texas after struggling in Houston, and it seems his decision to discard his prescription glasses may have helped. The Rangers like him.

    50. Derek Holland, $7 million, one year. The Rangers found no takers around $11 million, so there’s a hint. Needs to steer clear of his dog.

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    And predictions on the top two guys:


    1. Yoenis Cespedes, $110 million, 4 years. The best player on the market shouldn’t have trouble topping three years this time after betting on himself and winning with a Mets deal that contained an opt out following a year in which he was the highest paid position player in the NL ($27.5M). The Nats could return to the derby after missing out on him and (fortunately) Jason Heyward, too. Plus, the Dodgers and Giants are interested, raising the stakes.

    2. Edwin Encarnacion, $92 million, 4 years. He did well turning down the Jays’ spring attempt of a two-year guarantee with two option years. But with Toronto’s Morales signing, it seems more likely now that he goes elsewhere. Though the Jays like Encarnacion, new Jays honcho Mark Shapiro never favored the mega deal, anyway. The Astros, Rangers and Red Sox have been connected early. Boston’s $88-million Hanley Ramirez deal seems like a fair guess, especially with Toronto seemingly less anxious.

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    First Rangers move of the offseason looks to be a 1/10 million deal with Andrew Cashner:

    Ken Rosenthal
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    Sources: #Rangers close to signing free-agent RHP Andrew Cashner.

    TR Sullivan
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    Looks like it's done at one-year and $10 million for Cashner...Long been on the Rangers radar screen

    TR Sullivan
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    Deal is expected to be a one-year deal

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    heres the thing about cashner. he sucks big old american $#@!s and this is a terrible deal. are we rolling out a 7 man rotation next season because the best he is is a number 7 starter.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...210055315.html

    Eight Texas Rangers prospects were questioned by police in the Dominican Republic after a video showed a group of players sexually assaulting an underage teammate in a hazing incident that targeted players new to the team’s Dominican complex, sources familiar with the case told Yahoo Sports.

    While prosecutors in the Dominican Republic have yet to press charges for the alleged assault, they told the court they intend to charge at least four players who held down a teammate and masturbated him, sources told Yahoo Sports.

    Among those expected to be charged are the younger brother of Rangers second baseman Rougned Odor, also named Rougned, and Yohel Pozo, a top catching prospect, both 19 years old. The players facing potential charges have been told not to leave the country, according to sources.

    Video of the alleged assault, which took place toward the end of October, was captured and posted on Snapchat, according to sources. A 10-second clip of video, obtained by Yahoo Sports, shows the alleged victim in a Rangers shirt and Rangers shorts laying on a bed with his arms held behind his back and his legs pinned down. At least four men are seen in addition to the alleged victim, whose $#@! is exposed, grabbed and maneuvered underneath a hand towel. All of the men in the video, including the alleged victim, are seen laughing.

    The alleged assault was one of a number of hazing incidents of Venezuelan and Colombian players, some of whom were younger than 18, according to sources. More tenured players shaved the head of at least one new player and forced at least one other to take his clothes off, and sources said police are investigating at least one more allegation of forced masturbation.
    This part is really WFT?

    Among those expected to be charged are the younger brother of Rangers second baseman Rougned Odor, also named Rougned

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    Maybe this is just some cultural difference we'll never understand

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    $#@!ing weirdos.

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    All the problems are solved. New stadium with AC. AC is the answer, the guys had no heart because they were overheating.

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    [QUOTE=longhornfrenzy#1fan;10251809]And man I was really wrong on Holland and everyone else was right in no one wanting his $#@!ty ass:

    It's probably on the old thread, but I too thought that the Rangers would exercise the team option for Holland. I thought after he came back from his injury he could make the rotation.

    Mark me down as being pessimistic about the Rangers rotation next season.

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    beginning to think that flipping profar for a young number 3 starter that is struggling in his current locale but has upside would be a really great idea. cashner sucks balls and is nothing more than another number 5. hell bring nefti back and let him start if this is the best we are going to do in free agency.

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