After the Drake game, one of our grad transfers said "they didn't deserve to be on the court with us and we believe they didn't deserve to be on the court with us." We were losing for most of the first half to said 1 win Drake team, and it was close until the last 2-3 minutes.
We're currently tied at 18 with 0-11 Mississippi Valley State in Hilton.
This team has no character or leadership. Bunch of bitches. I thought Morris, Long, and Thomas would be a unified group of senior leaders, but it's not the case at all. Morris thinks he needs to score every point, Long forgot how to shoot/became a turnover machine, and Thomas has just kind of faded into the background.
Beard used to coach under the Knights so even if he hasn't proven he has staying potential somewhere he has coached under good coaches. I think Tech is trying to see if they can bring in a fresh unknown coach with potential like Baylor did after their murder scandal. The fact that Drew has brought them to where they are after where they were is remarkable and Tech must've felt some type of stagnation so they wanted freshness in the program.
We're nearing conference play; let's get some predictions in.
Hope this is super wrong.
Last edited by Pistol Pete's Mustache; 12-21-2016 at 11:51 AM.
I'd put Baylor at 2 over WVU mostly because Baylor has the guard play to break the press and the rebounders. Something that benefitted WVU in conference play last year. Didn't they lead the league in rebounding on top of having Press Virginia going on?
I could see the top three pulling away and the rest having 6+ losses just as much as I could see everyone taking hits. I think OU might beat Baylor and maybe TCU is as good as their record indicates this year. I can't wait for the opening day, regardless.
Baylor playing Texas Southern tonight, who lost to TCU by 37 just 3 days ago.
KU loses big man Udoku Azubukie for the season. He was a freshman but was starting. We now have a very slim rotation. Our big men are a senior who never saw the court until last year and lost his starting job to a 17 year old freshman this year and a sophmore that didn't play last year and hasn't taken a step forward this year. We have a tall wiry frosh on the bench that will see minutes and a transfer that is coming off an ACL who hasn't played any significant minutes for KU.
That means we are going with a 4 guard lineup for the rest of the year and we are looking at a core rotation of 7:
We will have two big subs that can possibly play 10 minutes each in Lightfoot (frosh) and Coleby (Transfer with knee injury).
Our ceiling might now be the sweet 16. The conference just got competitive at the top.
I had planned to watch OUSUCKS last night but fell asleep, looks like they lost to Auburn.
Texas has a shot at sweeping at least one of the top three schools at home. Which one I don't know but we play well vs Baylor so I guess that's who I think.
Baylor's front court will look like the Spurs front court against us. Actually, they'll look more like the Harlem Globetrotters to our Washington Generals. They're big, they're athletic, they can run and jump, and they have real basketball talent. Baylor should beat us by about 20 in Austin.
Last edited by Derka; 12-23-2016 at 03:49 PM.
Are most Kansas fans like the ones I see comment on ESPN (stupid question, I know)? They all think Kansas will cakewalk to another Big 12 title. I think especially after this injury that might not be the case. Y'all are significantly weaker where WVU and Baylor are the strongest. Is Jackson still foul prone? He seems to be the wild card for you guys.
He's not foul prone and while we are weaker and thin we still have 2 NPOY type guys and no one should sleep in svi or Vick. If Vick averages 10 points and 5 boards a game in conference play he will be a lottery pick based on his raw potential and extreme athleticism. We have Villanova type guards this year and all 5 of them are professional caliber. And we have bill self. I don't mean that to throw self in people's faces but we do have the best coach in the league.
I think people are timid. We haven't played this thin since 2008-2009 but we are definitely far more talented than that year. A deep run is probably not likely but the big 12 is about winning at home and Kansas does that more than anyone else. All of our guards are great on D and are not foul prone so we should be ok there. As we've seen all season the middle is seeing a lot of fouls called so that is a huge concern. I don't think it is out of the question for us to play 5 guards at some point this year. We are going to either have huge issues against big teams or we are going to handle them pretty well. There probably isn't much room for error but our ceiling is probably still higher than anyone in the league and I think that is probably where the confidence you see is coming from.
We play Kentucky at rupp in a couple of weeks. TBhat will tell us exactly how march is going to go.
Last edited by jhawk; 12-24-2016 at 10:50 AM.
I expect Kansas to win the Big 12 every year. In fact I sometimes forget about them in terms of conference play because I just expect them to win and be at the top. They are just a different class consistently.
Yeah... we are $#@!. Maybe 4 wins in conference and thats if we are lucky
There is something of a scheduling quirk in that we have games against the two biggest threats in back-to-back midweek games sandwiched around a road trip to Rupp for the Big 12/SEC weekend. 1-2 in that stretch of games isn't out of the question, and if the 1 is against Kentucky...advantage Baylor/WVU.
Looking at schedules, that 3 game stretch will be hard. But we have 9 home games and if we win all of those then we likely need 5-6 road wins to take the conference. That should be doable given how bad the bottom of the conference will likely be.
On specific teams, Kansas State and Texas Tech have each only played one opponent with a pulse (and both lost), so those are the two candidates that could be considerably worse than we think they are...and neither has a non-con resume to feel good about a bid with say an 8-10 record and a first round loss in the Phillips 66 Invitational.
Last edited by VolenteHawk; 12-28-2016 at 03:28 PM.
I guess there are only a couple of us with big enough balls to actually make a prediction. That's cool, I'm used to it
I'll play. Give me ISU to win the conference, just because I don't like predicting KU again. I actually haven't watched any of our B12 brethren play a game. But I've seen Texas play several times and will confidently pick us to finish last. Would like to be wrong about that.
You have less than 12 hours to get your predictions in. Predicting order of finish might be too tough but other predictions are allowed! Will there be another Marcus Smart at TTU incident? Another UT-Baylor fight? Hilton Magic reappears? Will someone who no one thought of upset Kansas in a basketball game (like TCU a few years ago)? Will someone beat KU at the Phog? Will we beat the SEC in the Big 12/SEC challenge once again?
4) Tornado Bird
5) Yosemite Sams
6) Okie State
2) West Virginia
4) Iowa State
5) Oklahoma State
6) Texas Tech
9) Kansas State
I think the league is too deep to get 7, since there won't be any gimme road wins. So, I'll say Tech gets the 6th/last bid.
WVU @ OSU - 3 pm
TTech @ ISU - 5 pm
BU @ OU - 6 pm
UT @ KSt - 7 pm
KU @ TCU - 8 pm
WVU (Not real confident in this one but $#@!it)
ISU (Hilton Magic)
UT (Shaka pulls something out of his ass)
KU (TCU sucks)
Last edited by El Diablo; 12-30-2016 at 02:27 PM.
Today I have:
A close game between WVU-OSU (WVU wins)
BU close win
KSU (Octagon of DOOM!)
KU in a surprisingly close game.
So basically chalk.
Sold out GIA for OSU vs WVU. OSU looks good at the 15:00 mark.
WVU starting to pull away
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