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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
    Who's the guy doing the KU game that sounds stoned as hell?
    Color guy? Fraschilla.

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    Now KU has 5.6 for the win.

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    And of course they win.

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    Drive home safely.

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    Oh my god KU just won on a travel.

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    Fuuuuck.. lol, holy $#@!. KU looks pretty beatable despite the outcome of this one.

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    WTF??? That's a travel even in the NBA.

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    I'm shocked KU got away with that.

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    Quality AFH home cooking. I guess the Phog was too thick for them to see the extra step.

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    "Even in Europe", that was pretty funny.

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    Yeah... typical BS in that building, but KSU had their shot.

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    That officiating crew needs a three-game suspension.

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    Absolute chicken$#@! no call there. No way the refs didn't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Teeth View Post
    I'm shocked KU got away with that.
    TOTALLY SHOCKED! Like, it's unbelievable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
    KU looks pretty beatable despite the outcome of this one.
    Not by us.

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    "I looked up and saw 5 seconds so I took three dribbles"

    ...and 3 extra steps.

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    I didn't recognize Frans voice, dude sounded wasted.

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    Now WVU-TTU on ESPN News. TTU up 2 with 4 remaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
    I didn't recognize Frans voice, dude sounded wasted.
    I think he's sick. He was kinda hinting on it earlier on in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
    Who's the guy doing the KU game that sounds stoned as hell?
    He has a cold i think.

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    WVU looks like they are going to go down.

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    Jinxed it WVU-TTU going to OT

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    OT in Lubbock

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    We might be able to beat WVU at a FT competition.

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    Nice win, Techsters.

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    Down goes WVU.
    Gives KU and Baylor a little breathing room. Who knows how the KU game would've went if they called that travel on the buzzer beater though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Teeth View Post
    I'm shocked KU got away with that.
    Clearly you've never watched a game in Allen Fieldhouse. The refs handing Kansas a win at AFH is the official start of college basketball season.

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    Clearly you've never heard sarcasm before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Clearly you've never heard sarcasm before.
    Who the hell has never heard sarcasm before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Teeth View Post
    I'm shocked KU got away with that.
    You can't be serious.

    EDIT: Sarcasm meter is broken.

    Can't wait to see the KU contingent say anyone else gets that call, there's no bias towards KU in the officiating in this conference, etc. Just once I'd like to see a KU fan be like "you're god damn right we get those calls" and just own it, instead of accusing everyone else of whining.
    Last edited by Al_4_ISU; 01-04-2017 at 09:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzou415 View Post
    Clearly you've never watched a game in Allen Fieldhouse. The refs handing Kansas a win at AFH is the official start of college basketball season.
    $#@!, it don't have to be in AFH.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkLlGjNNO0

    Hardly the most egregious incident that night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_ISU View Post
    You can't be serious.

    EDIT: Sarcasm meter is broken.

    Can't wait to see the KU contingent say anyone else gets that call, there's no bias towards KU in the officiating in this conference, etc. Just once I'd like to see a KU fan be like "you're god damn right we get those calls" and just own it, instead of accusing everyone else of whining.
    You should check out the ku boards. Everyone knows that was a gift.

    I expected to learn something about ksu last night but I really didn't because ku played so poorly. Ku is clearly dogging it on defense to protect against foul trouble and that is going to lose them 2 games they shouldn't lose. This league will be a nail biter and I have to think with the WVU loss that Baylor has to be the favorite right now. Ku has to step up the defense in the first half or it's going to be the end of the streak.

    I didn't get to watch enough of the tech game but I really think they are in the top half of the league. Good on them protecting home court. It'll be interesting to see how Baylor travels. This league might be a big bunch at the top and not a 3 tier league like we thought. Of course those bunches usually get worked out around game 10-11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhawk View Post
    You should check out the ku boards. Everyone knows that was a gift.

    I expected to learn something about ksu last night but I really didn't because ku played so poorly. Ku is clearly dogging it on defense to protect against foul trouble and that is going to lose them 2 games they shouldn't lose. This league will be a nail biter and I have to think with the WVU loss that Baylor has to be the favorite right now. Ku has to step up the defense in the first half or it's going to be the end of the streak.

    I didn't get to watch enough of the tech game but I really think they are in the top half of the league. Good on them protecting home court. It'll be interesting to see how Baylor travels. This league might be a big bunch at the top and not a 3 tier league like we thought. Of course those bunches usually get worked out around game 10-11.
    Even the Phog board?

    You're almost always level headed, but that place strikes me as a cesspool of every reason to hate on KU imaginable.

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    Even the phog. Thread titles like "ksu fans - thanks for traveling to the game" and "three steps of god".

    Everyone is recognizing the travel and probably 60% are saying it should be called and we should have played overtime. 30% are saying we got away with it and who cares let's take the W. Then the last 10% is either saying svi was also fouled on a reach in or that we lost to WVU last year when states walked from the 3 point line on a buzzer beater so why should the call be made against us if it wasn't against him.

    Like I said, it was blatantly obvious during the review that the call wasn't made. We were on the right side of it this time and with the way we're playing right now we will have plenty of opportunities to be on the wrong side of it during league play. Both teams had multiple opportunities to put this game away and neither did it so now the focus is on the late no call. I don't really have an opinion on it, it was a travel but I'm not going to call the league office and forfeit the game for us. If you don't want the officials to decide games then you have to take the officials out of the game. Both KU and KSU could have done that last night but both teams pissed it away down the stretch.
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    One thing I did learn is that something like 7 big men have had their season high in points against us. Baylor might push our $#@! in if they have any talent inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_ISU View Post
    You can't be serious.

    EDIT: Sarcasm meter is broken.

    Can't wait to see the KU contingent say anyone else gets that call, there's no bias towards KU in the officiating in this conference, etc. Just once I'd like to see a KU fan be like "you're god damn right we get those calls" and just own it, instead of accusing everyone else of whining.
    Juwan Staten had a similar end of game scenario for WVU just two years ago didn't he? I just love when conference season starts a unified front of hate against KU emerges over homer/controversial calls. I watch a lot of NBA and they wouldn't have made that call either it's just so $#@!ing amplified with everyone in college ball.

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    I remember the Staten game. I guess I don't really care because it appears more to be the exception and not the rule.

    When WVU wins multiple games against ISU with critical, egregiously bad calls, I'll probably hate them for it too. There's an undeniable pattern of KU getting head-scratchingly bad calls go their way in critical moments of big conference games. WVU isn't there - yet. But their "can't call everything" strategy could lead to some of those type of results in time.

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    Even the ESPN guys on Sports Center said "that's what happens in Allen Field House" after the game. I was going to try and look up his school. He was pretty funny about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_ISU View Post
    I remember the Staten game. I guess I don't really care because it appears more to be the exception and not the rule.

    When WVU wins multiple games against ISU with critical, egregiously bad calls, I'll probably hate them for it too. There's an undeniable pattern of KU getting head-scratchingly bad calls go their way in critical moments of big conference games. WVU isn't there - yet. But their "can't call everything" strategy could lead to some of those type of results in time.
    I don't really want to get into it this early in the season but we've gone over this for the last 3-4 years since I've been here. At one point last year I even posted a study on Allen Fieldhouse home cooking and the fact of the matter is that it just isn't there on a game by game and minute by minute basis. The whistle was swallowed at the end and it definitely shouldn't have been.

    Best quote I have heard this morning from a KU fan - "That was the longest rushing play of KU's season."

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    The group of officials that the Big XII rotates suck. They tend to favor home teams at all venues. Coaches who get on the refs seem to get extra calls that others don't. Frank Martin seemed to put the fear of god into the refs. Couple that with the Octagon during his tenure and KSU got their share of calls.

    Self has the most tenure of anyone right now and knows the officials in the conference. If he ever leaves, Phog's homecourt advantage with the refs will go away considerably. The new group of coaches is already showing that in other venues. This is one of the more laid back group of coaches the Big XII has had in years.

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    Higgins was reffing the WVU-TTU game. I wouldn't trust Higgins with watering my yard let alone a freaking Big 12 BBall game. I still don't know how he is employed.

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    Let's predict the Big 12 ***AS OF THIS MOMENT***

    Quote Originally Posted by jhawk View Post
    One thing I did learn is that something like 7 big men have had their season high in points against us. Baylor might push our $#@! in if they have any talent inside.
    Get to see them tonight on ESPN News against ISU.
    ISU doesn't seem to have real length so who knows if it's a good litmus test or not.

    I was surprised to see TCU only win by a score against OU.

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    If we're within 10 points, I'll be thrilled. I expect Baylor to absolutely drill us. They're on a 4 game win streak over us that directly correlates with a lot of these guys getting to Waco and that length/athleticism leading to infinite second chance points and tons of blocked shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_ISU View Post
    Can't wait to see the KU contingent say anyone else gets that call, there's no bias towards KU in the officiating in this conference, etc.
    I wouldn't normally, but that travel is literally never called. I watch more college basketball than anybody I know, and I can't remember the last time I've seen a travel called on a end game drive that didn't involve a guy falling down. It just doesn't happen.

    I actually thought last night was one of the better called Big 12 games I've seen in a while. They missed a couple head scratchers, and it was a loose whistle with lots of allowed inside contact...but it was pretty consistent. But college basketball officiating kinda sucks, you either live with it or don't watch the sport, pretty much.

    They missed a travel two possessions before that allowed K-State to tie it, but I don't expect much outrage on that one since they haven't been butt$#@! the conference for a dozen years. It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrouserTrout View Post
    I was surprised to see TCU only win by a score against OU.
    I had that game on a side TV during KU, and OU started fast and led for a long time. It was actually a nice gut check win for TCU, because they didn't play anywhere near their A game...which is recent years has meant certain loss against anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_ISU View Post
    If we're within 10 points, I'll be thrilled. I expect Baylor to absolutely drill us. They're on a 4 game win streak over us that directly correlates with a lot of these guys getting to Waco and that length/athleticism leading to infinite second chance points and tons of blocked shots.
    This scares me about them too. We'll have to send 1 big and 3 guards to the boards against them and if we don't get the rebound there is going to be a lot of transition buckets scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolenteHawk View Post
    I had that game on a side TV during KU, and OU started fast and led for a long time. It was actually a nice gut check win for TCU, because they didn't play anywhere near their A game...which is recent years has meant certain loss against anybody.
    I think Jamie Dixon will be coach of the year if he gets them in the tourney. That's on a national basis. If he gets them in the top 5 of the big 12 he will be big12 coach of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhawk View Post
    This scares me about them too. We'll have to send 1 big and 3 guards to the boards against them and if we don't get the rebound there is going to be a lot of transition buckets scored.
    I'm never scared of Baylor and I hope they throw their zone at us. If they weren't coached by Drew maybe I'd be worried but nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Range Life View Post
    I'm never scared of Baylor and I hope they throw their zone at us. If they weren't coached by Drew maybe I'd be worried but nah.
    I haven't seen them for myself yet but supposedly they are playing zone less than 50% of the time. Our guards would destroy their zone. But man up might be a little different. Like you, I don't give them the benefit of the doubt becasue self is so far in drew's head he could claim squatter's rights, but this year Drew might have just assembled the right talent and he might just get out of his own way for once. We'll have to roll the ball out to see but with the way we have been playing since the Udoka injury I wouldn't take any advantage we might have over them for granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolenteHawk View Post
    I wouldn't normally, but that travel is literally never called. I watch more college basketball than anybody I know, and I can't remember the last time I've seen a travel called on a end game drive that didn't involve a guy falling down. It just doesn't happen.

    They missed a travel two possessions before that allowed K-State to tie it, but I don't expect much outrage on that one since they haven't been butt$#@! the conference for a dozen years. It is what it is.
    That travel is literally never called? You're full of $#@!. He stopped dribbling with a third of the court to go.

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