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    Quote Originally Posted by Parliament View Post
    Not a popular statement in this thread, but you need carbs. Not sure how many, but you need carbs. Greek yogurt w/granola is my go-to breakfast. Try it.
    Agreed with the need of carbs, especially if you're incorporating exercise. I wouldn't suggest a carb heavy breakfast though. I like eggs for breakfast because protein will keep you full longer so you're not more likely to eat a huge lunch or snack too much in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midtown View Post
    A lot of you guys are making it way too hard. Especially on people that are dealing with motivation issues.

    Watch your calories and carbs.

    The best thing you can do is find 10-12 meals that you enjoy eating that fit the low cal/carb. And just eat them consistently.

    I'm the type of person that can eat the exact same thing for breakfast, lunch and dinner several days a week so I only needed a few meals. Others might need more variety. You don't have to do it forever just while you are trying to gain some traction and see results.
    I think that you provided the http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ link earlier. Over the last week, this has been crucial and informative. highly recommend.

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    I never said "no carbs" I said watch your carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearSchlong View Post
    Also I wanted to shout from the rooftops - Bulletproof Coffee is awesome.
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    Recipe?

    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    Coffee/butter/MCT oil has been my new pre-workout, and it has been great.
    utexas61 nailed it. Cup of coffee, squirt of MCT Oil, tablespoon of Kerrygold Unsalted butter, and blend.

    If you do happen to have carbs for dinner, and then have bulletproof coffee for breakfast the next day, it promotes a quicker re-entry into ketosis.

    According to The Bulletproof Diet guy, Dave Asprey.

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    Well I guess this weekend was as close to my Waterloo and I am likely to encounter until SXSW. Thurs, Fri, Sat, Mon I went out and ate and drank. I guess the big change is that 1/2 gallon of Jack that I was replacing every 7 days during the Holiday Season is still sitting on the counter. I think I have only made four drinks at home and two of those were last night during the Natty. Largely I just ate what I wanted but with Keto choices, but fell off the wagon the one day I did not drink going way over on Salmon portions. I have made sure to work out religiously and have settled on and upper body/lower body/ ab and bicep three day rotation. Giving each body part two days of rest for recovery. And I am going to start making sure I walk/run/hike whatever every morning at a minimum far enough to wipe out my breakfast calorie intake.

    I guess the main thing is that I didn't yo-yo horrifically back up in weight and managed to hold steady despite my bad week. So hopefully being strict the rest of the week will give me another small weight drop. Definitely feels good to be working out again. I always laugh at how I tend to stand and sit up straighter once I start working out, I guess better posture is an instant byproduct for me. My kid will be gone in a couple days back to school and a lot of the go out temptation will disappear this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parliament View Post
    Not a popular statement in this thread, but you need carbs. Not sure how many, but you need carbs. Greek yogurt w/granola is my go-to breakfast. Try it.
    You don't NEED carbs. but after you're keto adjusted it makes sense to have a few carbs and some probiotics for digestive health. For me, that's about 10 Raspberries or 4 medium strawberries each evening.

    I'm not a carb-nazi - I only relay my own experiences and what I did to get sustainable results. Personally, I had to remove glycemic load from the equation, at least for an extended period of time. I had an unhealthy relationship with carbs, very similar to the unhealthy relationship I had with alcohol. My past tendencies run towards extremism, and part of recovery is moving towards emotional moderation. While I can abstain from drinking alcohol, I can't completely eradicate carbs from my life.

    Case in point - I love gumbo - and I've come to love gumbo without rice, potato salad, or garlic bread. Over New Years, on two consecutive days, I decided $#@! it and had rice and garlic bread with gumbo. Kicked myself out of ketosis and felt miserable. Gumbo without rice and garlic bread still has carbs from the roux flour and holy trinity, just not enough to kick me out of keto.

    So "low" carb diet - and admittedly, for very long term sustainibility, this is defined as less than 50g a day for lazy keto - isn't as fanatical as you might think. Here's my diet from yesterday.

    Breakfast - Bulletproof coffee
    Lunch - 3/4 lb sliced brisket, small creamed spinach, small green beans
    Snacks - some spicy peanuts, some roasted almonds.
    Dinner - leftover egg drop soup, some dill havarti cheese, some top round pastrami, pickles, stuffed olives.
    Desert - 10 raspberries with a shot of canned whipped cream

    Granted I'm not in active weight loss mode anymore, I'm trying to replace body fat with lean muscle - so I actually eat enough protein to get some gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parliament View Post
    Not a popular statement in this thread, but you need carbs. Not sure how many, but you need carbs. Greek yogurt w/granola is my go-to breakfast. Try it.
    I know that and I have carbs. I typically eat them after my workout with my shake.
    All my life my workouts were after work and after numerous meals so I had plenty in the tank.
    After sleeping then getting up to workout on an empty stomach it is different.

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    Slice of toast and a coffee for me.

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    I also eat after my runs as well. Yogurt and granola is my go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dad View Post
    Agreed with the need of carbs, especially if you're incorporating exercise. I wouldn't suggest a carb heavy breakfast though. I like eggs for breakfast because protein will keep you full longer so you're not more likely to eat a huge lunch or snack too much in between.
    Right. Carbs leading into a workout. Not sure the RIGHT interval, but I do 0-2 hours before.

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    anyone who tells you that you don't need carbs is not to be trusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by naija View Post
    anyone who tells you that you don't need carbs is not to be trusted
    Even those who don't eat carbs and are just fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naija View Post
    anyone who tells you that you don't need carbs is not to be trusted
    question.. are carbohydrates essential for life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    even those who don't eat carbs and are just fine?
    especially them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    question.. are carbohydrates essential for life?
    Maybe. Maybe not.

    But it IS tough and unnecessary.

    http://www.healthline.com/health-new...-safe-121914#4

    Critics say the keto-type diets usually work only in the short term and can be unhealthy.

    For starters, most of the lost weight is water weight, according to Lisa Cimperman, R.D.N., a clinical dietitian at University Hospitals Case Medical Center in Cleveland, Ohio, and a spokesperson for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.

    “Once your body enters ketosis, you also begin to lose muscle, become extremely fatigued, and eventually enter starvation mode. Then it actually becomes even harder to lose weight,” Cimperman told Healthline.

    Mawer said he doesn’t believe the keto diet causes muscle loss. He did caution it’s not optimal for someone trying to gain muscle.

    Other experts interviewed by Healthline had stronger words of caution.

    “Keto diets should only be used under clinical supervision and only for brief periods,” Francine Blinten, R.D., a certified clinical nutritionist and public health consultant in Old Greenwich, Connecticut, told Healthline. “They have worked successfully on some cancer patients in conjunction with chemotherapy to shrink tumors and to reduce seizures among people suffering from epilepsy.”

    People are using this for cosmetic reasons, but it’s so extreme that it’s dangerous.

    In the general population, Blinten said a keto diet should only be considered in extreme cases.

    “It can do more harm than good. It can damage the heart, which is also a muscle,” she explained.

    Anyone with type 2 diabetes can benefit from weight loss and a reduced-carb diet because it will improve insulin sensitivity, Cimperman explained.

    “But there are many other ways to do it besides a fad diet that won’t keep weight off long-term,” she said.

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    Yeah and for every article like that one, there's another that supports the keto science.

    Your argument is invalid.

    It just plain works.

    Edit: a dietician???? Holy $#@! I cannot believe you posted weak $#@! like that on the shag. You should be ashamed.

    Parliament, please stahp. I've tried to not engage you directly but the fact is you're just ignoring good science.

    A nutritionist???? Smh. Those ignorant $#@!ers are why half of america is pre-diabetic. Seriously. There's a reason American health has been steadily declining since 1960 - I feel sorry for any licensed nutritionist toeing the USDA line.

    Starvation mode? That's hilarious. I've been starving myself into lower BMI, increased lean muscle mass, and improved blood work for almost 2 years. My doctors are overjoyed with the results.
    Last edited by BearSchlong; 01-10-2017 at 11:53 PM.

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    I could never do keto simply because I love craft beer too much. I try to limit completely crappy carbs (other than beer) but I eat a good bit of fruit, oatmeal, brown (and sometimes white) rice, corn products (e.g., tortilla chips), and drink probably about 20 beers per week. I could stand to lose 15-20 pounds, but it's not worth it for me if it involves giving up beer. I have been exercising more this year so we'll see, maybe I'll be able to drop the pounds without cutting back on the beer.

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    My biggest problem is eating late at night when I work evenings. I've cut that out and ate breakfast and healthy snacks and added light workouts in the past and dropped a decent amount of weight. That's the plan now. I'm not quitting sweet tea though. That's gonna be my downfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDAK View Post
    I could never do keto simply because I love craft beer too much. I try to limit completely crappy carbs (other than beer) but I eat a good bit of fruit, oatmeal, brown (and sometimes white) rice, corn products (e.g., tortilla chips), and drink probably about 20 beers per week. I could stand to lose 15-20 pounds, but it's not worth it for me if it involves giving up beer. I have been exercising more this year so we'll see, maybe I'll be able to drop the pounds without cutting back on the beer.
    I was in your boat. Exercising 5 times a week. A combo of HIIT, weights, interval and run/walking/sprinting. I'd still have about 15 or so craft beers of all kind a week, avoid whites (potato, rice, flour) and corn as much as possible, and generally eat smart. I got stronger, cardio better and physical results were great. But I wasn't losing any weight, and actually gained about 3 or 4 pounds. Tried to calorie count on same diet and was miserable because beer takes up so much of it. There are some relatively low carb crafts that are good like All Day IPA, but they are few and far between and not always available.

    So now I have just cut beer and wine out altogether in the near term with otherwise same diet. If I want to drink (Monday night for game, busdev events for work) I stick to vodka sodas and whiskeys on rocks. Or I just drink Topco Chico to get that fizz fix. I don't like weighing every day, but intend to weigh myself about once every 2 weeks to see how it is going.

    This isn't a permanent thing. I have too much craft beer in my fridge for it to be. But if I can make it to February, and see results, I can start folding those things back in, but at a much lower rate.

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    Ok guys this is how I am going to commit to losing weight. In 6 months I will have a pic taken of me in a speedo no matter what. Speedo season waits for no man!

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    ^
    The sucky part is the calorie and carb deficit in order to LOSE weight. once you get down to the weight you want you can bring you calories up and maintain you weight. Hopefully the act of losing weight helps you learn to moderate your food and drink to maintain your weight so that you don't have to do it again.

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    Ok guys this is how I am going to commit to losing weight. In 6 months I will have a pic taken of me in a speedo no matter what. Speedo season waits for no man!
    One of my jokes I made up when somebody says something like this- "Did you know I can make a thong disappear?" To a usually dumbfounded woman or group.. Then I simply turn to face them with my ass, and touch my toes!

    Hopefully by Summer the joke will be a little less obvious...

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    Here's what medical experts have to say about the low carb lifestyle.

    Excellent video - all of it's good but the heart of the matter starts at 10:00. This speaks to his professional work, his personal story is in the 2nd video below.



    Same guy - Dr. Peter Attia. Very good video. I love the fact that he didn't rush headlong into a ketogenic diet, but ended up there through trial and error. I probably need to watch my protein intake.



    The takeaway is that you have to pay very close attention to diet and listen to your body.

    Also, this one is good.

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    2017 Body Transformation Thread (aka- If I don't lose weight it's gonna kill me)

    Dudes, a favor.

    Can we use this thread as a motivational tool and take the diet methodology defense elsewhere?

    I for one, appreciate the advice and insights - but I would prefer this thread is cluttered up with defense or degradation of a lifestyle.

    If it works it works. Let's share what is working for you, what is not, and all try to get where we want to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner Barnes View Post
    Dudes, a favor.

    Can we use this thread as a motivational tool and take the diet methodology defense elsewhere?

    I for one, appreciate the advice and insights - but I would prefer this thread is cluttered up with defense or degradation of a lifestyle.

    If it works it works. Let's share what is working for you, what is not, and all try to get where we want to go.

    This. Keto is a big enough 'thing' that you could/should probably have a whole separate thread for it.

    I do low calorie/low carb. I'm thinking of switching over to more of a 5:2 fasting type of plan but maintaining a low carb diet (rather than the 'eat what you want' that is associated with many intermittent fasting plans).

    I generally only eat twice a day anyways - so I don't think incorporating a couple of 36 hour fasts into my week should be too incredibly difficult. Definitely will help to reduce any 'stalls' I see in weight loss and should help to minimize the effects of days when I do lose willpower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner Barnes View Post
    Dudes, a favor.

    Can we use this thread as a motivational tool and take the diet methodology defense elsewhere?

    I for one, appreciate the advice and insights - but I would prefer this thread is cluttered up with defense or degradation of a lifestyle.

    If it works it works. Let's share what is working for you, what is not, and all try to get where we want to go.
    The problem is that most people who want to change their bodies don't have an understanding of the actual underlying science. That's why most people fail in their attempts.

    I'd like to apologize to the group for my reaction to Parliament - I tried to delete but time expired.

    One thing I won't apologize for is my passion for body transformation.

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    I'd like to hear more about intermittent fasting - anybody have any book or research recommendations to share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearSchlong View Post
    The problem is that most people who want to change their bodies don't have an understanding of the actual underlying science. That's why most people fail in their attempts.

    I'd like to apologize to the group for my reaction to Parliament - I tried to delete but time expired.

    One thing I won't apologize for is my passion for body transformation.
    Peter Attia will no longer even speak about nutrition btw. He's was beat up so much over the past few years that he's just over it. Dom D'agostino is still researching though.

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    It amazes me how little consensus there is regarding healthy eating and eating towards weight loss. You'd think that the incredible amount of general interest, published materials and research into all this would not leave us debating every detail of this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Tex Devil View Post
    I was in your boat. Exercising 5 times a week. A combo of HIIT, weights, interval and run/walking/sprinting. I'd still have about 15 or so craft beers of all kind a week, avoid whites (potato, rice, flour) and corn as much as possible, and generally eat smart. I got stronger, cardio better and physical results were great. But I wasn't losing any weight, and actually gained about 3 or 4 pounds. Tried to calorie count on same diet and was miserable because beer takes up so much of it. There are some relatively low carb crafts that are good like All Day IPA, but they are few and far between and not always available.
    Just to put some emphasis on this.... I took measurements with trainer this morning and compared to a year ago.

    Feb 2015 - 5'8", 208, 30% body fat, 36.5" at belly button
    Today - 5'8", 212.5 (was 218 last week), 23% body fat, 38" at belly button

    Contradictory results, but by not cutting back on beer, all my fat has gone to to the middle while my legs, shoulders, arms and back are more toned. So the beer and wine goes for a bit while I focus on a high protein/fat, low carb diet using MFP to keep me honest. If I can be at 200 at end of February, I'll be thrilled. Would love to be 190-195ish come weeklong Disney trip in April when everything will go to crap for a short time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    It amazes me how little consensus there is regarding healthy eating and eating towards weight loss. You'd think that the incredible amount of general interest, published materials and research into all this would not leave us debating every detail of this topic.
    Agribusiness, Healthcare, and Government - public health enemies #1, real or imagined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardner Barnes View Post
    Dudes, a favor.

    Can we use this thread as a motivational tool and take the diet methodology defense elsewhere?

    I for one, appreciate the advice and insights - but I would prefer this thread is cluttered up with defense or degradation of a lifestyle.

    If it works it works. Let's share what is working for you, what is not, and all try to get where we want to go.
    I would rep you again if I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearSchlong View Post
    I'd like to hear more about intermittent fasting - anybody have any book or research recommendations to share?
    I started here. Usually 16 to 18 hours a couple times a week. Every once in a while i go 24 hours. Typically eat dinner about 5pm then dont eat my first meal of the day until 10 or 11. Its not really tough for me. With my schedule it works well
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/healt...ttent-fasting/

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    Yeah, no offense to those preaching the low carb diet, but y'all come off a little like crossfitters, either side of the global warming debate, vaccination for/against, and Jesus riding dinosaur nutters. And i do low carb and cal for my weight loss during the week. You can see results off of low carb just like you can crossfit, but we don't need to turn this in to a CR thread debating either one.

    Since this seems to have taken over the fitness thread, i'll move here.

    Moved to the next shorter set of holes on my belt. Gained back the ground i lost the last 3 months of 2016.

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    OK, and I'm done $#@!ing on the anti-carbers. My deepest apologies to all those I offended.

    I don mostly weight training in the winter, and mostly cardio in the summer. At 41, I've FINALLY figured out how to do it. I SO wish I could send myself an email back to 1997.

    1) Every minute, on the minute training is a key, core piece of my strength training. I do it 50/50 with working up to a 1 RM the other 50%. YMMV, but I like to do the heaviest single I can do each set.

    2) I'm not a natural runner. I tried for an entire summer and got down to about an 11 minute mile. Sad. What I've found instead, is running bleachers. In the Summer, have a weight vest and get up to 72# in it. $#@! brutal, $#@!ing awesome.

    3) Genetics matter, and sometimes genetics suck. Myself, I'm good at adding weight, duration, speed, ect to a new workout fast. (As an example, I went from a 12# vest to 72# in 7 weeks last summer.) I can constantly, aggressively add challenge to my workouts; especially starting out. On the other side, my metabolism is evil. If I go over 2800 calories/day, I get fatter. That's bull$#@!.

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    I see more anti-no carbing than anti-carbing.

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    Random thoughts: Ever wonder why you rarely see overweight Asians? Indians?

    I love Asian food and from just watching the chefs at the local Japanese steakhouses, I just started doing that.

    I've lost weight in the past by cooking in a wok. Now they have these bags of stir-fry mix in the salad section. Cut up some skinless chicken, a little oil, bag of broccoli slaw mix, egg, onion, mushrooms, bean sprouts, zucchini, cabbage, squeeze of lemon/lime, soy/teriaki/fish sauce. Really just anything in the produce section. Thai...throw in some basil, peppers and peanuts. Started adding pepitas(pumpkin seed kernels) recently. Just slightly toast in the oil. Keep the rice to a minimum.

    Tired of chicken? I have a friend who is a butcher and he sells me the "tails" that he cuts off tenderloins. $10/lb. I've also used fresh fish/shrimp/scallops...I've also cut up a pork chop.

    That butcher also gives me the beef bones. Learning how to make pho.

    Also, when the wife and I get take-out these days, usually from a cafeteria, we split it.

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    I did intermittent fasting and insanity/basketball/soccer for about 7 months a couple of years ago when I was being a fat $#@!ing slob after my divorce and lost almost 70lbs. I didn't want to lose that much weight but it became a game for me to get to 199lbs. Everyone thought I was dying lol. Not a good look on me but that $#@! worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlh View Post
    Random thoughts: Ever wonder why you rarely see overweight Asians? Indians?
    Intestinal parasites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    It amazes me how little consensus there is regarding healthy eating and eating towards weight loss. You'd think that the incredible amount of general interest, published materials and research into all this would not leave us debating every detail of this topic.
    Just yesterday I was thinking about how I'm positive that I must have been taught this $#@! in high school health class, but that none of it stuck and how, as a reasonably intelligent adult, I nevertheless feel like I have only the vaguest understanding of how foods, nutrition, diet, etc. works. I know that fast food is bad, and vegetables are good, but that's nearly the extent of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prepuce of Doom View Post
    Just yesterday I was thinking about how I'm positive that I must have been taught this $#@! in high school health class, but that none of it stuck and how, as a reasonably intelligent adult, I nevertheless feel like I have only the vaguest understanding of how foods, nutrition, diet, etc. works. I know that fast food is bad, and vegetables are good, but that's nearly the extent of it.
    Well there you go. Eat lots of vegetables and some meat.

    It isn't rocket surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parliament View Post
    OK, and I'm done $#@!ing on the anti-carbers. My deepest apologies to all those I offended.

    I don mostly weight training in the winter, and mostly cardio in the summer. At 41, I've FINALLY figured out how to do it. I SO wish I could send myself an email back to 1997.

    1) Every minute, on the minute training is a key, core piece of my strength training. I do it 50/50 with working up to a 1 RM the other 50%. YMMV, but I like to do the heaviest single I can do each set.

    2) I'm not a natural runner. I tried for an entire summer and got down to about an 11 minute mile. Sad. What I've found instead, is running bleachers. In the Summer, have a weight vest and get up to 72# in it. $#@! brutal, $#@!ing awesome.

    3) Genetics matter, and sometimes genetics suck. Myself, I'm good at adding weight, duration, speed, ect to a new workout fast. (As an example, I went from a 12# vest to 72# in 7 weeks last summer.) I can constantly, aggressively add challenge to my workouts; especially starting out. On the other side, my metabolism is evil. If I go over 2800 calories/day, I get fatter. That's bull$#@!.
    I'm intrigued by your #2. Wait, that sounded funny. What I mean is that I've got the lifting down, my difficulty has been working in meaningful HIIT, which is running bleachers. The other thing would be running wind sprints from end zone to end zone for a half hour. It's been years since I broke into my HS stadium, I think I'll change that this weekend.

    Ironically, it's the same HS Stadium where UT's own James Brown worked his magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearSchlong View Post
    I'm intrigued by your #2. Wait, that sounded funny. What I mean is that I've got the lifting down, my difficulty has been working in meaningful HIIT, which is running bleachers. The other thing would be running wind sprints from end zone to end zone for a half hour. It's been years since I broke into my HS stadium, I think I'll change that this weekend.

    Ironically, it's the same HS Stadium where UT's own James Brown worked his magic.
    If you're looking for meaningful HIIT, I recommend kettlebells. Start with the swing and take it from there.

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    Running bleachers is natural HIIT. You run up, walk down, run up, walk down, pause to catch your breath, repeat. Adjust the weight in your vest to get the "catch your breath" interval right. It's also a good complement to your lower-body weight training, SO LONG AS YOU DIAL BACK THE SQUATTING AND DEADLIFTING. You'll overtrain quick if you don't. I do lower body movement every other day, adjusting the intensity based on my soreness from the prior leg day. If I'm REAL sore, I just go for a walk instead. Everyone is different, but I don't get real sore from deadlifting. What gets me is any squat variation and, to a lesser degree, reverse hypers.

    You really gotta listen to your body. If you're duration and intensity is up there, be happy to take it easy for a leg workout or even take the day off. You earned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prepuce of Doom View Post
    I nevertheless feel like I have only the vaguest understanding of how foods, nutrition, diet, etc. works. I know that fast food is bad, and vegetables are good, but that's nearly the extent of it.
    What's funny is that I guarantee you can find a diet whose strict adherents will tell you you have it completely ass-backwards and that you should eat almost anything except for vegetables.

    "Oh, you had a garden salad for lunch? I don't know what will take you first, the diabetes or the cancer....."

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    Exactly - it's that total lack of consensus that keeps me from even bothering to try to learn much at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlh View Post
    Cut up some skinless chicken, a little oil, bag of broccoli slaw mix, egg, onion, mushrooms, bean sprouts, zucchini, cabbage, squeeze of lemon/lime, soy/teriaki/fish sauce. .
    Someone, maybe you, mentioned this earlier in this thread or another. Thank you. I tried this the other night. Stir fired some slaw mix in olive oil and a little butter. Added salt and vinegar. Was very good. I liked it so much i'll probably be eating it 2 or 4 times a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ut_ob1 View Post
    Someone, maybe you, mentioned this earlier in this thread or another. Thank you. I tried this the other night. Stir fired some slaw mix in olive oil and a little butter. Added salt and vinegar. Was very good. I liked it so much i'll probably be eating it 2 or 4 times a week.
    HEB broccoli slaw mix is my go to. Stir fry with whatever protein I have on hand and a little Sriracha.

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    Unless we already have one, maybe we should make a separate healthy recipes thread.

    Last night, I made cauliflower "rice" to go with some kung pao shrimp and veggies. First time I'd tried it since hearing about it recently. Has about 1/8 of the calories and carbs of real rice. Definitely going in the rotation.

    There are all sorts of recipes out there. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8HbnLxMApU

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