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    Cost of raising a child is now more than $233K

    WASHINGTON (AP) Expecting a baby? Congratulations! Better put plenty of money in your savings account.

    The Department of Agriculture says the estimated cost of raising a child from birth through age 17 is $233,610, or as much as almost $14,000 annually. That's the average for a middle-income couple with two children. It's a bit more expensive in urban parts of the country, and less so in rural areas.

    The estimate released Monday is based on 2015 numbers, so a baby born this year is likely to cost even more. It's a 3 percent increase from the prior year, a hike higher than inflation.

    Since 1960, USDA has compiled the annual report to inform and probably terrify budget-preparing parents. State governments and courts also use the information to write child support and foster care guidelines. The main costs include housing, food, transportation, health care, education, clothing and other miscellaneous expenses.

    Things to know about how much it costs to raise a child:

    HOUSING IS EXPENSIVE

    Up to a third of the total cost is housing, accounting for 26 to 33 percent of the total expense of raising a child. USDA comes up with those numbers by calculating the average cost of an additional bedroom an approach the department says is probably conservative, because it doesn't account for those families who pay more to live in communities that have better schools or other amenities for children.

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    URBAN VS. RURAL DIFFERENCES

    The cost of raising a child varies in different regions of the country. Overall, middle-income, married-couple families in the urban Northeast spent the most ($253,770), followed by those in the urban West ($235,140) and urban South ($221,730). Those in the urban Midwest spent less ($217,020), along with those in rural areas ($193,020).

    USDA estimates the annual housing cost per child in urban areas is $3,900, while it's $2,400 in rural areas.

    There were also differences depending on income. Lower-income families are expected to spend around $174,690 per child from birth through 17; higher-income families will spend a whopping $372,210.

    The average middle-income family earns between $59,200 and $107,400 before taxes.

    CHILD CARE COSTS HAVE RISEN

    After housing, child care, education and food are the highest costs for families. For a middle-income couple with two children, food costs make up about 18 percent of the cost of raising a child. Child care and education costs make up 16 percent.

    Education costs have sharply risen since 1960, when USDA estimated that those expenses were around 2 percent of child-rearing expenses. The report says this growth is likely due to the increased number of women in the workforce, prompting the need for more child care.

    The numbers don't even include the annual cost of college, which the government estimates is $45,370 for a private college and $20,090 for a public college.

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    OLDER KIDS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE

    New parents may flinch at the costs of diapers and baby gear, but it's going to get worse. While a child costs around $12,680 when he or she is between 0 and 2, a teenager between 15 and 17 costs around $13,900 annually.

    USDA says food, transportation, clothing and health care expenses all grow as a child ages. Transportation costs are highest for the oldest children, perhaps because they start driving, and child care and education costs are highest for six and under.

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    MORE KIDS, LOWER COSTS

    There is some good news for big families. Families with three or more children spend an average of 24 percent less per child. USDA says that's because children often share bedrooms in bigger families, clothing and toys are handed down and food can be purchased in larger and more economical packages. Also, private schools and child care providers may offer sibling discounts.

    In contrast, one-child households spend an average of 27 percent more on the single child.
    https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/parents...ce.html?ref=gs

    Holy moly that's a lot.

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    its in a countrys best interests that parents go bankrupt, who needs future generations

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    Cost of raising a child is now more than $233K

    And yet we phase out child tax credit and phase the child care tax credits. Thanks government social engineers.

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    I probably spend less than $5000 per kid. And half of that comes at Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    I probably spend less than $5000 per kid. And half of that comes at Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastasis View Post
    And yet we phase out child tax credit and phase the child care tax credits. Thanks government social engineers.
    The social engineering was providing the tax credits in the first place.

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    This is why i always LOL at people waiting "until we're financially ready" for kids. Have fun getting going to Pre-K graduation at age 55...

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    2 kids monthly expenses:
    Tuition $1,000
    After school care $250
    School lunches $100
    Daycare $950
    Health Insurance $250
    Dyslexia tutoring 2 times/week $800
    College savings $1000

    $4350/month bare minimum.

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    They don't even mention insurance costs in the article which is substantial. With insurance, school, and activities I think we're a good ways past that number.

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    this is only for white kids. i aint have non o dat.

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    Does that factor in insurance costs? I also consider real estate costs. Without kids my wife and I would be just fine in a huge studio loft overlooking the skyline or something instead of a 3/2 or 4/2 or 5/3 or whatever is needed depending on your family size.


    But even without factoring that in, it's easily $2500 a month with afterschool/extracurricular enrichment programs, seasonal clothes and shoes (they grow out of clothes every season the first 10 years), entertainment, food...and that's even after moving to an exemplary public school district to save on private school tuition.

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    PER MONTH absolute bare minimum
    tuition: 1900
    insurance: 400
    food: 400
    clothes: 100
    TOTAL: 2800


    INCIDENTALS last year
    medical (last year 10,000), sports (last year 700), college (12,000)

    that doesn't factor in entertainment or anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsoda3 View Post
    INCIDENTALS last year
    medical (last year 10,000),.
    that's some espensive 'Tussin y'all are buying

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    $#@!ing hell. I'd rather spend that on myself.

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    How about the mental health costs of trying to raise a child? Sheesh...

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    1) don't save for retirement when you're fresh out of school because you don't make that much and Austin is expensive and you're going to be rich later
    2) get used to living on your entire income
    3) have kids
    4) wait for the raise/promotion that causes you to feel like you're making a lot of money now and can save

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    The cost of not having kids is pretty high. You have a lot of free time to blow money on a lot of $#@!.

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    As most on here have said, having 3 kids that are only 4 and under, I feel like 233k is low ball.

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    Here's the full report if anyone is interested. Breaks out all costs.

    https://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/defa...es/crc2015.pdf

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    Good gracious, no wonder I look back on 2016 and ask where did all my money go!

    Child Care - $2200
    Food - $250
    Insurance - $100
    Clothes - $100
    Other $#@! - $100
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BA93 View Post
    The social engineering was providing the tax credits in the first place.
    preciselisimo comrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by po elvis View Post
    The cost of not having kids is pretty high. You have a lot of free time to blow money on a lot of $#@!.
    I am expensive as $#@!. Why would I waste my money on a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5280 View Post
    that's some espensive 'Tussin y'all are buying
    two surgeries, both out of the blue. thank the Lord he's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slorch View Post
    This is why i always LOL at people waiting "until we're financially ready" for kids. Have fun getting going to Pre-K graduation at age 55...
    This seems like a silly, irrelevant generalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by po elvis View Post
    The cost of not having kids is pretty high. You have a lot of free time to blow money on a lot of $#@!.
    This exactly. I'd spend way more money overall if I didn't have kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slorch View Post
    This is why i always LOL at people waiting "until we're financially ready" for kids. Have fun getting going to Pre-K graduation at age 55...
    I think the point is that you set yourself and your kids up in a significantly better situation if you wait to have kids until you're out of school, have a stable, established career, have paid off school debt and are actively saving for retirement.

    That is attainable well before your 50's.
    Last edited by Jonkr15; 01-10-2017 at 10:34 AM.

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    This is why I wanted to get a loan to help pay for child care and many of you balked at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    This seems like a silly, irrelevant generalization.
    It's the gist of the thread $#@!face.

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    There has to be a huge difference on what today's parents spend on their kids verus how much money is necessary to raise a kid today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonkr15 View Post
    I think the point is that you set yourself and your kids up in a significantly better situation if you wait to have kids until you're out of school, have a stable, established career, have paid off school debt and are actively saving for retirement.

    That is attainable well before your 50's.
    Yeah, because more and more folks are able to get 'set up' right on that schedule these days, right?

    I just get a kick out of folks who think everything has to be set up perfectly before they get going on parenthood. Sure, due diligence should be given, but your scenario isn't as likely as you make it sound. Hell, people can't even manage the debt they have, without children...allegedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    There has to be a huge difference on what today's parents spend on their kids verus how much money is necessary to raise a kid today.
    And this.

    Some y'all don't have the slightest clue differentiating between wants and needs.

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    I quickly glanced at the report and it seems they are reporting spending trends, not cost of basic necessities.

    I think the thread title should be "Report shows how spoiled our kids are today"

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    Quote Originally Posted by squib View Post
    IPhones, IPads, and Hatchimals ain't cheap yo.
    Can't fit kids in a Corvette

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20 View Post
    The Department of Agriculture says the estimated cost of raising a child from birth through age 17 is $233,610, or as much as almost $14,000 annually.
    $#@!, I'm paying nearly that just for child care on the older one. Younger one's not far behind. Can't $#@!ing wait until they're in public school.

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    $14,000k/yr? Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    I quickly glanced at the report and it seems they are reporting spending trends, not cost of basic necessities.

    I think the thread title should be "Report shows how spoiled our kids are today"
    Co-sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by slorch View Post
    Yeah, because more and more folks are able to get 'set up' right on that schedule these days, right?

    I just get a kick out of folks who think everything has to be set up perfectly before they get going on parenthood. Sure, due diligence should be given, but your scenario isn't as likely as you make it sound. Hell, people can't even manage the debt they have, without children...allegedly.
    I'm not saying it will work that way for everyone. I think it's a good goal to strive for though. I was able to do it and I'm not special.

    My parents did not follow that model and we still survived and turned out alright so obviously it's not essential to raising good kids.

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    Jesus. That number seems absurdly low.

    I feel like college alone will cost $233k. Sorta joking. Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    There has to be a huge difference on what today's parents spend on their kids verus how much money is necessary to raise a kid today.


    How is the determination of what is necessary made? I ask because the world is dynamic and things--like obstacles and opportunities--change with time. Where is the break of what is necessary and what is superfluous and how does one suss that data out? By my estimation, it's trial-and-error with the baseline being a prevailing morality. I think fundamentally the core beliefs and value systems of a family unit determine those answers and we live in a society where that is still relative, despite a pretty rigorous framework for compulsory demands (for example, we've deemed that your child must have at least a burlap sack, engage in some sort of regulated schooling by the age of 6, must be fed and be free from abuse, but how you accomplish clothing, schooling, wellness can be achieved in many degrees).


    While I do believe there are universal truths, I do believe every situation to be unique.


    But then maybe the answer is to feed the child spiritually and teach the child early on that nothing of this world matters, feed the child fish and loaves of bread and teach him the temporary time spent here should be spent in study and worship. Some could claim that is the only necessity and look down on children in high fashion clothes, private schools teaching poetry and chess, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange&White View Post
    Jesus. That number seems absurdly low.

    I feel like college alone will cost $233k. Sorta joking. Not really.
    That's just birth to 17. Probably doesn't include things like college savings and paying tuition and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutTheCrackJack View Post
    How is the determination of what is necessary made? I ask because the world is dynamic and things--like obstacles and opportunities--change with time. Where is the break of what is necessary and what is superfluous and how does one suss that data out? By my estimation, it's trial-and-error with the baseline being a prevailing morality. I think fundamentally the core beliefs and value systems of a family unit determine those answers and we live in a society where that is still relative, despite a pretty rigorous framework for compulsory demands (for example, we've deemed that your child must have at least a burlap sack, engage in some sort of regulated schooling by the age of 6, must be fed and be free from abuse, but how you accomplish clothing, schooling, wellness can be achieved in many degrees).


    While I do believe there are universal truths, I do believe every situation to be unique.


    But then maybe the answer is to feed the child spiritually and teach the child early on that nothing of this world matters, feed the child fish and loaves of bread and teach him the temporary time spent here should be spent in study and worship. Some could claim that is the only necessity and look down on children in high fashion clothes, private schools teaching poetry and chess, etc.
    I don't claim to have any definitive answers, but I think your post supports my point.

    If I am correct in my statement that these are average national spending figures, then these are meaningless in terms of what costs are necessary to raise a child in this country. It is just the money spent by parents that have the motivation and means to do so.

    Both the motivation and means will vary from family to family. I am not saying one way is better than the next. But there are options and some are extremely less expensive than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    I probably spend less than $5000 per kid. And half of that comes at Christmas.
    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    There has to be a huge difference on what today's parents spend on their kids verus how much money is necessary to raise a kid today.
    the guy dropping $2,500 per kid on christmas is lecturing parents on what qualifies as a necessity? how about you gtfo, sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood Colt View Post
    the guy dropping $2,500 per kid on christmas is lecturing parents on what qualifies as a necessity? how about you gtfo, sir?
    I was joking, Hollywood Colt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    I was joking, Hollywood Colt.
    like funny haha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood Colt View Post
    like funny haha?

    Like it should have been obviously ironic. Maybe so ironic it probably isn't true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by utexas_61 View Post
    Like it should have been obviously ironic. Maybe so ironic it probably isn't true?
    yeah i don't get it. but this thread seems like an odd place for you and slorch to pull out the 'kids these days are just spoiled rotten'. as far as i can tell the study just looks at basic necessities and those posters that have shared their monthly costs have done the same. i suppose if the study indicated parents were spending half of that amount on video games and other mindless $#@! you and slorch would have a point. but then again, i've yet to stumble into a parenting thread where slorch wasn't lecturing the masses on the Slorch Method of Perfect Parenting.

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    Do you really feel somebody could spent $2500 a year to raise a child but would also drop $2500 on Christmas gifts?

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