Add me to the "$#@! him" list. I'm not reading $#@! anymore. HBO me.
all the fan "support" came from his blog which is heavily heavily moderated.
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For those few of my brothers who have waited the long wait, the first GoT book turned 20 today. To celebrate GRRM is doing preorders of an illustrated edition: http://www.randomhousebooks.com/book...&mid=171090557
So...a remastered greatest hits album. I feel like this is what artists do when they reach an age where they know they're done putting out new music...
Goddammit. I hate it when this thread gets bumped without news of a release date.
I have the 4 graphic novels of GoT and the hardback, how will an illustrated version not be 6" thick? Will still buy.
Aeron chapter narrated and all other WoW chapter narrated, done pretty well might I add, possibly better than Dotrice.
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He made his money, and doesn't care anymore. His abridged/adapted story will be told, and it will likely have to be good enough for fans of the book.
I honestly don't even give a $#@! anymore.
Could be a screwup, or a leak, saying the book drops March 9, 2017: http://nerdist.com/did-george-r-r-ma...me-of-thrones/
DID GEORGE R.R. MARTIN’S THE WINDS OF WINTER’S RELEASE DATE JUST LEAK?
POSTED BY MICHAEL WALSH ON SEPTEMBER 6, 2016
Could it be? Do those of us (im)patiently awaiting word when the next book in George R.R. Martin‘s series A Song of Ice and Fire will actually be released finally have something concrete to hold on to? Did the release date for The Winds of Winter just get leaked?
We came across this potentially wonderful news at Entertainment Weekly, and it appears that Amazon France is currently listing the book’s long (loooong) awaited release date as March 9th of 2017. That would give book readers plenty of time to not only catch up to HBO’s Game of Thrones, which passed the books last season story-wise, before season seven premieres some time next summer, but potentially get ahead, depending on where The Winds of Winter ends.
Of course, as any fan of Martin’s iconic work knows, never get too excited about anything related to the story, both in the real world and the world of Westeros, because no one is better at playing off our expectations and leaving us feeling gutted than he is, and we’ve been anticipating this book for awhile now.
After all Martin has said in the past he would announce the publication date for the book himself on his blog, and this is just one site listing this date. It could be a simple mistake, an overzealous fan at the company, or even a misunderstanding that led to a wrong–or worse imaginary–date being given.
So yes, there’s a million reasons to take a breath and wait to hear something far more concrete, either from the author himself or from one of his publishers (we reached out for comment from Penguin Random House, Martin’s U.S. publisher, but had not heard back at the time of publication).
But who needs that?
We’re allowed to be excited, and we’re allowed to let some hope overcome the often discussed fear among readers that, instead of The Winds of Winter simply being delayed, it would never be released. I don’t know a single fellow reader that hasn’t worried about Martin never finishing the series, making it so Game of Thrones will be the only conclusion we ever get to the story.
It would give us the big picture ending, but that wouldn’t be sufficient for those of us that have read the hundreds of thousands of pages he has written, with so many differences between the book and series.
For example, we want to see Martin’s version of the Battle of Winterfell, where Stannis is still alive and seemingly knows something Roose Bolton doesn’t. We need to see if Ser Davos can manage to bring Wyman Manderly his liege lord back in Rickon Stark. There’s a whole other realm where Mance Rayder is playing a secret role in bringing down House Bolton, and where Coldhands is not Benjen Stark, and someone is secretly going around Winterfell killing men and young boys.
Some questions have surely been answered. We know Jon Snow is coming back to life and what really happened at the Tower of Joy. It seems impossible for some events covered in season six on the show to be different from the what will happen in the books, but might Cersei’s psychotic destruction of the Sept of Baelor go the same way in the book, a book where her daughter Myrcella and Tommen are both still alive? So many people the show left out are converging on or pulling at Daenerys–Victarion, Moqorro, “Young Griff” and Jon Conington, the Golden Company–that only the books can ever tell us their fates, events which might greatly shape Daenerys as she marches towards Westeros.
There are so many people and events that we long to see again in the book (you know, like a compelling and interesting version of the Sand Snakes), that we’ll take this March 9th date and hold on to it because for too long we’ve been left in the dark, which is full of terrors.
His publisher came out and debunked that. I think the best we can hope for is it to be out before season 8.
Not that he could ride a horse that fat $#@!
At some point, he's just going to say "$#@! it". Fire and Ice will never be finished by the fat $#@!. At best, somebody else will write the last books, plus about 10 more, a la Robert Ludlum.
I honestly think he's spent years chasing fangirl poon. The last 5-6 years have probably been the first time he knew women who were enthusiastic about having sex with him in his entire life.
I have already decided that I won't read them. I finished the most recent book over 4 years ago, I hardly remember anything in the books that was not repeated in the TV show. I am not slogging my way through all 5 books again just to get back up to speed. Anything short of unanimous agreement that the last 2 books are the finest piece of literature ever conceived will not convince me to even crack the book open. I'll just ride out the next two seasons of GoT and read countless other worthwhile books instead.
I've read the entire series at least twice, except for the Egg & Dunk novellas, which I've read once. I can't work up any enthusiasm for another re-read.
I'm going to let you in on a little secret.
He's never going to finish it.
I'm predicting that some frustrated fan is going to off him before it's finished.
"The internet sends it's regards."
Yall are way too mad at him IMO. I think its pretty obvious what the problem is, and its not going to conventions, its that he has no idea how to bring it all back together. I think he knows how it ends, but he can't figure out how to get it there without it being a $#@! show.
I have read 1-3 many times. 4-5 once. If/when 6 and 7 come out - I'll read them, but it wont be a priority. Clearly HBO is going to tell us how it ends in broad strokes, and that will be fine for 90% of the people.
I somewhat agree with Mr. Drummond. GRRM stated he didn't know exactly how it would end because if he knew everything he would get bored and would lose enthusiasm. I think he got to the point he knew how it had to end, i.e. plot threads, and doesn't care anymore about writing but won't admit it. It's a story for him that he shared and he doesn't think his millions upon millions of dollars are in anyhow an obligation to finish the books. "Hey, I told you half of great story that was personal to me and I don't care about anymore. Leave me alone, I have conferences to attend".
I feel like $#@! sometimes for complaining when I think about his fans who have been with him from day one. 1996, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2011, ...? Yet he complains his fans are jerks and have to give him some breathing room, as if he just released a book last week.
I have OCD that is routed around doing things correctly, in order, beginning to end. I first ready Harry Potter a year before book 7 came out and was obsessed. Luckily J.K. Rowling can finish a series, despite her inherent flaws as a writer; after book 7 I couldn't give a $#@! and haven't thought about it since in terms of fandom. They're fun children's books without any character development or arcs (exception Draco), Harry and friends are the same people from book 1 to 7, but at least she finished her damn books. GRRM should just hand off the series to a ghost writer while he goes to conventions. I give him a lot of credit (thought still pissed off*), but nobody ever really cares about who ends something as much as who begins something in the world of fiction. JRRTolkien fans I'm sure approve.
*I'm a horrible writer and was working on my own fantasy world for myself: wolves being the favorite emotional animal (mine since four), Northerners being the emotional favorite (was born and raised in the PNW), and trees as a religious symbols (PNW and very, very hard black trunks and golden leaves, used for ship building) were a huge part of the world I was crafting. One of the main characters was a dwarf who got by the constant belittlement of the world on his wits was going to be a major character. Saw GoT, then read AGoT, and knew I had to change a lot or else me labeled a copy cat.
I agree with its...just tell someone else the plot and let them bring it to life.
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